04-24-2014, 09:08 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Selke Finalists: Bergeron, Kopitar, Toews
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=7...id=DL|NHL|home
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Patrice Bergeron of the Boston Bruins, Anze Kopitar of the Los Angeles Kings and Jonathan Toews of the Chicago Blackhawks are the three finalists for the 2013-14 Frank J. Selke Trophy, which is awarded "to the forward who best excels in the defensive aspects of the game," the National Hockey League announced today.
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04-24-2014, 09:09 AM
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Bergeron will win. He is good.
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04-24-2014, 09:10 AM
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Bergeron should win with Kopitar not far behind.
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04-24-2014, 09:11 AM
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I just want to know why Nugent-Hopkins didn't get nominated. It's criminal!
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04-24-2014, 09:51 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by codynw
I just want to know why Nugent-Hopkins didn't get nominated. It's criminal!
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Vote was split between him, Hall, Eberle and J. Schultz (who is deemed as a 4th forward and thus, eligable for the award).
These three bums all came up the middle.
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04-24-2014, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MattyC
Vote was split between him, Hall, Eberle and J. Schultz (who is deemed as a 4th forward and thus, eligable for the award).
These three bums all came up the middle.
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Best defensive forward! Ha!
"Hey...arent you just a defenceman?"
"Ummm.....no?"
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04-24-2014, 09:54 AM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
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This award has become the "best two-way forward award". All these players can score. There may be better defensive forwards that don't score much at all.
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04-24-2014, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Locke
Best defensive forward! Ha!
"Hey...arent you just a defenceman?"
"Ummm.....no?"
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"I was sure you were a defenceman"
"Have you seen me play any defence?"
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04-24-2014, 09:57 AM
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Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by troutman
This award has become the "best two-way forward award". All these players can score. There may be better defensive forwards that don't score much at all.
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I would agree, although for guys like Bergeron and Toews I'm not sure that's true. While being able to put up good (not crazy PPG) numbers, they are elite on the d-side as well.
But the Norris has gone that way as well. Sad really, to see PK Subban dubbed the best dman made me almost vomit. Weber, Suter, Chara, Doughty, Keith, Pietrangelo would be on my list before Subban, could probably think of a few more too.
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04-24-2014, 10:05 AM
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GOAT!
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Remember when this award used to be about the best defensive forward, instead of the best forward with the best defensive stats?
I blame Federov for being so damned good at almost every aspect of the game, that he actually destroyed the bar for every other defensive forward after him. Although, I think Draper and Lehtinen won it after him, so maybe it's not that bad. Datsyuk probably gets some of the blame then too, I suppose.
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04-24-2014, 10:14 AM
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What stats typically affect this award? I assume +/-, faceoff%, blocked shots? What else?
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Before you call me a pessimist or a downer, the Flames made me this way. Blame them.
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04-24-2014, 10:19 AM
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Palat?
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04-24-2014, 10:33 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by codynw
What stats typically affect this award? I assume +/-, faceoff%, blocked shots? What else?
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Take aways is probably a big one. This and the Norris would be the toughest to determine purely on stats. Defensive prowess is hard to nail down in a stat.
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04-24-2014, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MattyC
Take aways is probably a big one. This and the Norris would be the toughest to determine purely on stats. Defensive prowess is hard to nail down in a stat.
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Which is why a large part of this award is based on reputation.
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04-24-2014, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MattyC
Take aways is probably a big one. This and the Norris would be the toughest to determine purely on stats. Defensive prowess is hard to nail down in a stat.
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I just hate that the Norris almost always goes to the defensemen with the most points in the NHL... So many of the other factors are ignored.
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04-24-2014, 10:53 AM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Which is why a large part of this award is based on reputation.
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And playing on a team east of the Mississippi.
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04-24-2014, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by troutman
And playing on a team east of the Mississippi.
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Kesler says hi.
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04-24-2014, 10:56 AM
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Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Which is why a large part of this award is based on reputation.
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While true, I don't think you can argue with any of the candidates.
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04-24-2014, 10:57 AM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
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Originally Posted by codynw
Kesler says hi.
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The East says hi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_J._Selke_Trophy
30 winners east of the Mississippi. 1 from Pacific time zone. 0 from mountain time zone. St. Louis (1) and Dallas (3) are fairly central too.
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04-24-2014, 11:04 AM
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I'm pretty surprised by the who the 3 finalists are.
I thought Yakupov would be in the mix.
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