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Old 04-16-2014, 03:06 PM   #101
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The video above.
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Old 04-16-2014, 03:09 PM   #102
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Dal Colle seems to rely a lot more on other players getting him the puck.
How else do you score? The NHL isn't a one man show like the NBA.

Johnny, Sven, Jiri, Mark, TJ, etc. can feed this guy the puck... I would love Dal Colle because after watching these highlights, we need someone that can finish.
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Old 04-16-2014, 03:11 PM   #103
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I would go Draisaitl at #4 assuming the top 3 are gone for sure.

I don't see Monahan becoming a true #1C. I see Monahan as more of a Bergeron, Couture or Toews type of player - scores a ton of goals, extremely defensively responsible and loads of leadership, but isn't the go-to offensive guy like Krejci/Iginla, Thornton, or Kane on those respective teams.

Either way, I'd just take whoever is left of the top 4 in Bennett, Reinhart, Ekblad and Draisaitl.

Dal Colle looks awesome too just from the videos so I wouldn't be upset if we chose him as well. Really, I don't think you can really go wrong with any of the top 5 this year - not too much separating them.
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Old 04-16-2014, 03:14 PM   #104
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Oh man that video of Dal Colle makes me want him way more than Draisaitl. The kid has an unbelievable shot, good size.

I wonder if we draft a LW if that means that Beartschi is tradebait. Not saying immediately, but down the road I could see a sniper like Dal Colle pushing Sven out of the top 6.
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Old 04-16-2014, 03:15 PM   #106
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Johnny is as much a playmaker as he is a finisher. Sven is primarily a playmaker. Klimchuk dishes the puck more than he scores. Poirier is potentially a finisher, but we'll have to see. And none of the vets on the team except for Cammalleri are true finishers.

This kid has the flash/elite hands and finish in his game. We don't really have a guy with both of those qualities AND size. We could definitely use a Dal Colle.
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Old 04-16-2014, 03:17 PM   #107
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Question for those that have watched Dal Colle, who's his linemates? Is he seeing most of his icetime with Cassels and/or Laughton? Saying that, would you say his numbers this season are a bit inflated because of those two players?
I haven't really watched him, but I believe pretty much all of his time with was one of Laughton or Cassels as center and usually with both on the PP. But I don't see either guy as being good enough that it'd raise questions about their wingers' output, so it's not really an issue IMO.
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Old 04-16-2014, 03:20 PM   #108
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I'm not a scout, but I heard an interview from a ISS guy who said Dal Colle steps up his game to his opposition (thus the inconsistancy?) and he really got better as the season went on. And his skill, etc.

Yeah .... that sounds good to me
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Old 04-16-2014, 03:20 PM   #109
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That Dal Colle video reminds me a lot of Monahan. Works hard to find the open space in between defenders and can finish very well.

Every goal scorer needs someone to feed them the puck. And I don't think there is any shortage of players who can make that pass on the Flames.
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I would go Draisaitl at #4 assuming the top 3 are gone for sure.

I don't see Monahan becoming a true #1C. I see Monahan as more of a Bergeron, Couture or Toews type of player - scores a ton of goals, extremely defensively responsible and loads of leadership, but isn't the go-to offensive guy like Krejci/Iginla, Thornton, or Kane on those respective teams.

Either way, I'd just take whoever is left of the top 4 in Bennett, Reinhart, Ekblad and Draisaitl.

Dal Colle looks awesome too just from the videos so I wouldn't be upset if we chose him as well. Really, I don't think you can really go wrong with any of the top 5 this year - not too much separating them.
So you're saying Toews isn't a true #1C.... wow.

Toews - 484 GP - 195G - 245A = .909 PPG
Kane - 515 GP - 178G - 315A = .957 PPG

Bergeron - 659 GP - 183G - 495A = .75 PPG
Krejci - 504GP - 110G - 268A = .75 PPG

I'd take Toews on my team over any of Krejci, Thornton or Kane. Thornton my have more PPG but Toews doesn't disappear when the game matters.

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He doesn't have as many points as the other potential forwards at the top of the draft, he has less physical projection, doesn't play center, isn't a RH Shot, that's on top of the reported poorer conditioning... he checks off nothing that would give me cause to select him over any of the other forwards generally ranked at the top of the draft.
What does this mean?
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This kid looks incredible. What hands, agility and shot. And not too bad at setting up team mate, either.

1:05 and 4:10 are beautiful.
Holy carp. OK, forget what I've been saying. I'm picking this dude.
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More on Dal Colle

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/201...monton-oilers/

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He’s at No. 4 on Craig Button’s TSN list as well. Of note, he is one of the younger draft-eligible players with a June, 1996 birth date.
(I know historically, Flames have perferred going after younger players in the draft - Pelech, Jankow to name 2)

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I’m an offensive-minded player, but I take pride in my defensive play,” he said. “Obviously there’s no offense without defense. I think I’ve been able to get off to a strong start offensively and I’ve been able to develop great chemistry with the guys. I consider myself a two-way player.”
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I had a good look at Dal Colle’s skating and he is a very strong skater. He’s got a relatively upright stance and holds his hands quite high on his stick as a result. This could be a factor in why he has to make very little adjustment when he gets the puck on his stick. He’s got very good acceleration and was in full stride within two or three quick strides as he exited the defensive zone and geared up through the neutral zone. His stride length also looked very good from as much as I could gather from this viewing. While his skating style is upright, he has a solid base with a relatively wide stance. He’s not easy to move off the puck despite needing to put on some additional weight as he grows. His closing ability also seemed excellent as he was able to pressure the puck carrier with ease, particularly in the neutral zone on a couple of occasions in the first period.

Dal Colle has all the markings of an excellent NHL sniper, yet with soft hands giving him the ability to post a lot of assists. His shot is superb. It is hard and accurate. He also has a great release and the puck was off his stick almost immediately upon receiving the pass. On one 5-on-5 sequence he picked up the puck along the boards in the attacking zone and went through two Pete defenders to get a very good scoring chance from about 15 feet out thanks to this release. In the third period, he rifled 2 consecutive shots from the point that were low and very hard. He didn’t get a point with the second shot but it led directly to a Generals PP goal as they scored off the ensuing scramble in front. Displayed some great hands more than once. Absolutely never seemed to panic with the puck on his stick even in the high traffic areas. His reach is a real separator and he uses it to take shots while being defended closely.
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Dal Colle seems to have above average vision and displayed it especially on the PP. It seemed smart to use him on the point on the power play as well as on the half wall – he’s a threat to score or pass it back door to someone as well. He was constantly in motion on the PP. He swoops through the zone when he picks up a little steam and with his long stride, he covers a lot of ice in a very short time. His offensive awareness and anticipation were on full display on a sequence in the third when he stole the puck while forechecking and followed it up with a beautiful pass into the high slot for a grade A scoring chance.
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People need to stop thinking drafting a LW makes Sven expendable, this is a 21 year old that just finished the AHL regular season as player of the week.

Very good chance he is a full time top 6 player on the Flames in 2015-2016.
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Old 04-16-2014, 03:50 PM   #115
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I don't see Monahan becoming a true #1C. I see Monahan as more of a Bergeron, Couture or Toews type of player - scores a ton of goals, extremely defensively responsible and loads of leadership, but isn't the go-to offensive guy like Krejci/Iginla, Thornton, or Kane on those respective teams.
Toews not a true #1 center? Do you also think Jonathan Quick isn't a true starting goaltender?
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Drafting by position is one thing but I don't think it's that smart to favour a prospect according to projected line combinations.



Dal Colle seems to be the pure goal scorer in the top 5 this year and probably the closest thing to Iggy in that regard. Going off of projected line combinations, Dal Colle - Monahan - Poirier seems to have what you need. idk
You seem to have 3 shoot first guys; where's the playmaker? I'm not saying Monahan isn't a playmaker but we haven't seen much of that from him this year; perhaps as he matures he'll be more of a playmaker like he was in junior.
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Old 04-16-2014, 03:58 PM   #117
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What does this mean?
It means he's more into astral projection, then physical.
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You seem to have 3 shoot first guys; where's the playmaker? I'm not saying Monahan isn't a playmaker but we haven't seen much of that from him this year; perhaps as he matures he'll be more of a playmaker like he was in junior.
AFAIK Monahan's linemates were a combination of Hudler, Colborne, Bartschi for a bit, and somebody else I'm forgetting.
Lots of playmakers on his wings so he's done the job of being the trigger man this season. It's still premature to say anything about line combinations.
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man, these next two months are going to feel like 60 days.
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