Question for the Pro-Vaccinate Crowd

[Thor]

Originally Posted by Trailer Fire

Here is a question for you guys. If you got your kid vaccinated, why are you worried about your kid hetting sick because of "stupid and irresponsible" parents? Shouldn't your kid be fine even if someone else's kid isn't vaxx'd? How are kids that aren't vaccinated putting vaccinated kids at risk? Honestly that is one of the two big arguments against anti-vaxxers.

Simple, because of herd immunity and to protect those who cannot have shots and are sick, old, have compromised immune systems, etc... That is the KEY point to vaccinations that anti vaxxers always seem to gloss over, we have to keep the vaccinations high in order to protect as many people as we can, once herd immunity drops below a certain rate, we see infections sky rocket as we are seeing now with measles outbreaks, whooping cough etc..

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

First line from wikipedia article cited:


Sounds like synonyms to me. What is the difference? And right in the same article, the top way listed to prevent the flu is the vaccine.

What is correctly being stated is that what people commonly associate the flu with (nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, etc) isn't what is being vaccinated against. Influenza is a respiratory infection, what people think of when they think of the word flu is often times an infection brought on by a norovirus, which can be potentially dangerous, especially for an infant, but it isn't near as deadly as influenza.

People should be getting their damn influenza vaccination though and the fact that people don't makes this argument a little bit hypocritical in my opinion.

[Nyah]

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/cbe-says-t...rmed-1.1775406

Two more Measles cases confirmed in Calgary schools.

[burn_this_city]

The fake doctors phony medical association muddying the waters.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...bate-1.2609717

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

The fake doctors phony medical association muddying the waters.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...bate-1.2609717

Makes my head explode!


This is better:

http://time.com/#60416/jenny-mccarth...ine-whitewash/

[AcGold]

so what are the top 5 or so that should be vaccinated? I'm guessing polio and measles are in there

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

The fake doctors phony medical association muddying the waters.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...bate-1.2609717

...

Alissa Gaul, president of the College of Naturopathic Doctors of Alberta, spoke on the Calgary Eyeopener this morning about whether her organization supports these claims.

"We actually don't have a direct policy," said Gaul. "People should do their due diligence and make the choice that's best for them.


"I think it's a grey issue because it's an issue about children and about health and about parents' choices and that in this country, of course, we have the choice to vaccinate or not."

[burn_this_city]

If they were science backed medical professionals they would have a policy that supported vaccination.

[troutman]

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe

Indiegogo is promoting a fundraiser on their homepage for an anti-vax, anti-gmo and anti-big pharma film. Andrew Wakefield is listed as a supporter and participant in the film. The film maker says in the fundraisers write up that they are under attack just for asking questions. What do you think?

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/b...arma-your-food

[redforever]

Originally Posted by AcGold

so what are the top 5 or so that should be vaccinated? I'm guessing polio and measles are in there

I don't think they vaccinate for polio anymore as it is considered eradicated in Canada...and I think that has been the case for some time. My children never were vaccinated for polio and they are in their 30's.

[ae118]

Yes, of course we still have polio immunizations. Here is the list of routine childhood vaccines according to the usual schedule:

http://www.health.alberta.ca/health-...-schedule.html

And here is further information about the vaccines and the diseases they help to prevent:

http://www.health.alberta.ca/health-...-vaccines.html



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[redforever]

Ok, I guess it is part of DTaP-IPV-Hib1 which my children did receive.

[redforever]

I just remembered, it was the vaccination against scarlet fever that my children never received but that I did. That is the one that leaves a little scar from a small blister that forms after the vaccination. I believe they consider scarlet fever eradicated around the world now.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Looks like Alberta is considering making vaccinations a requirement to attend school, just like Ontario and New Brunswick.

http://m.calgarysun.com/2014/04/14/b...hot-in-alberta

[fundmark19]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

Looks like Alberta is considering making vaccinations a requirement to attend school, just like Ontario and New Brunswick.

http://m.calgarysun.com/2014/04/14/b...hot-in-alberta

I support this 10000%

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

Looks like Alberta is considering making vaccinations a requirement to attend school, just like Ontario and New Brunswick.

http://m.calgarysun.com/2014/04/14/b...hot-in-alberta

The comments....THE COMMENTS...:suicide:

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

The comments....THE COMMENTS...:suicide:

On the plus side, think of all the fodder for your twitter account.

[PsYcNeT]

Oh I already got a couple biters with a few "gems" from that. Man the amount of anti-vaxxers in one place really depresses the #### out of me, especially the one guy who thinks Wakefield is an amazing guy

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

The comments....THE COMMENTS...:suicide:

I love some of those comments

3) WHO stating that the H1N1 outbreak was a 'pandemic' and people need to get vaccinated BUT in reality the outbreak was far less than was seen for the common flu

So the WHO said get vaccinated to avoid a pandemic. We all got vaccinated and there was no pandemic. Therefore vaccines don't work.

The logic is so bad all I can do is laugh.

[AcGold]

We didn't all get vaccinated