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Old 04-15-2014, 09:01 AM   #21
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This deal ties MacDonald as the 21st-highest paid defenceman in the NHL
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:01 AM   #22
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Wow Butler's agent is probably doing cartwheels right now as he's probably going to get himself a deal in the $3.5 million/season range. Terrible deal because it throws the market off as agents of 3rd pairing defensemen are going to use this as an example in negotiating.
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:04 AM   #23
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Awful. It's like Holmgren and Sather have a competition going to see who can hand out more ridiculous contracts for mediocre players.

If this is any kind of benchmark for Butler, Burke had better tell his agent to take a hike.
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:09 AM   #24
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Wow brutal contract. He was going to get that much from someone and I was praying it wouldn't be the Flames. One of the worst Corsi players in the league this year
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:17 AM   #25
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Unbelievable. Don't get me wrong he's an ok defenceman but 6 years at $5 million?

At the very most I would have game him 3 years at $4 million.

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Old 04-15-2014, 09:18 AM   #26
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Wow. What on Earth has this guy ever done to deserve that kind of money?
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:41 AM   #27
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Brodie will be an RFA so won't have close to the amount of leverage.
Brodie won't get $7m, but make no mistake he is going to get paid on his next contract.

That bridge contract is going to cost the Flames a lot of cap space moving forward. A Roman Josi type contract would be looking pretty good right now.
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:50 AM   #28
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Yeah... that's nuts. probably $18,000,000.00 more then I'd give him for that term.
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:56 AM   #29
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Did they think he was Andy McDonald? Because I think he retired...
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Wow. What on Earth has this guy ever done to deserve that kind of money?
Been coveted by Paul Holmgren.
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Old 04-15-2014, 10:05 AM   #31
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Just for fun.

MacDonald: GP: 82 G: 4 A: 24 P: 28 ESP: 16 +/-: -22 TOI/G: 24:37 PP: 2:52 SH: 2:22 Bks: 242 Hits: 69 Gva: 64

Butler: GP:82 G: 2 A: 14 P: 16 ESP: 15 +/-: -23 TOI/G: 20:15 PP: 0:20 SH: 2:41 Bks:211 Hits: 68 GVA: 69

Then the advanced stats:

MacDonald: Corsi: -13.26 Corsi Rel: -19.5 Off Zone Start: 48.8% Off Zone Finish: 49%

Butler: Corsi: -13.61 Corsi Rel: -8.9 Off Zone Start: 41.3% Off Zone Finish: 46.1

So MacDonald puts up worse numbers than Butler, but has much more favourable Offensive zone starts (48.8% vs 41.3%). This is like giving Butler a 6 year, $30 million dollar contract and then sheltering his defensive zone time.

Also judging by most advanced stats he has been the Flyers worst d-man since they acquired him: http://www.extraskater.com/players/o...team=phi&pos=D

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if this sets the market, Butler is going to get a hefty pay raise
I'm all for Butler getting a hefty pay raise...on someone else's team. If Butler gets 3.5m with the Flames I'll be very upset.
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Awful deal. Wow.

This won't set the market for Butler, Burke is a much better negotiator than Homer - I hope! If not then bye bye Butler.
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Awful deal. Wow.

This won't set the market for Butler, Burke is a much better negotiator than Homer - I hope! If not then bye bye Butler.
If I was Butler's agent though I go to UFA with this as the exact comparison.

Pretty much identical stats except for power play points which can be attributed to Butler getting no PP time while MacDonald played almost 3 minutes per game.

Looking at how identical their statistics are it actually makes me sad we couldn't move Butler at the deadline considering Philly gave up a 2nd and a 3rd for MacDonald.

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If I was Butler's agent though I go to UFA with this as the exact comparison.

Pretty much identical stats except for power play points which can be attributed to Butler getting no PP time while MacDonald played almost 3 minutes per game.
Yeah that's fine, he has earned his right to test the market but no way he gets 5 mill per or anything even close to that from Burke atleast.
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Old 04-15-2014, 10:21 AM   #36
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Holmgren gonna Holmgren.
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Old 04-15-2014, 10:30 AM   #37
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I can't wait for the day the Flyers toil in mediocrity for a decade. Holmgrem signs such horrible contracts, yet his teams always find a way to stay competitive. What an odd contract.
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Old 04-15-2014, 10:31 AM   #38
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Wow Butler's agent is probably doing cartwheels right now as he's probably going to get himself a deal in the $3.5 million/season range. Terrible deal because it throws the market off as agents of 3rd pairing defensemen are going to use this as an example in negotiating.
i'm fine with that as long as its not with us
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Old 04-15-2014, 10:32 AM   #39
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Until things stabilize, these signings are going to force teams to keep crappy players since an upgrade wouldn't be worth it.
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