[Signing] Flyers sign Andrew MacDonald to 6 yr extension ($5mil AAV)

[sureLoss]

This deal ties MacDonald as the 21st-highest paid defenceman in the NHL

[Erick Estrada]

Wow Butler's agent is probably doing cartwheels right now as he's probably going to get himself a deal in the $3.5 million/season range. Terrible deal because it throws the market off as agents of 3rd pairing defensemen are going to use this as an example in negotiating.

[mrdonkey]

Awful. It's like Holmgren and Sather have a competition going to see who can hand out more ridiculous contracts for mediocre players.

If this is any kind of benchmark for Butler, Burke had better tell his agent to take a hike.

[Cheerio]

Wow brutal contract. He was going to get that much from someone and I was praying it wouldn't be the Flames. One of the worst Corsi players in the league this year

[puckluck2]

Unbelievable. Don't get me wrong he's an ok defenceman but 6 years at $5 million?

At the very most I would have game him 3 years at $4 million.

[evman150]

Wow. What on Earth has this guy ever done to deserve that kind of money?

[JayP]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Brodie will be an RFA so won't have close to the amount of leverage.

Brodie won't get $7m, but make no mistake he is going to get paid on his next contract.

That bridge contract is going to cost the Flames a lot of cap space moving forward. A Roman Josi type contract would be looking pretty good right now.

[Parallex]

Yeah... that's nuts. probably $18,000,000.00 more then I'd give him for that term.

[Locke]

Did they think he was Andy McDonald? Because I think he retired...

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by evman150

Wow. What on Earth has this guy ever done to deserve that kind of money?

Been coveted by Paul Holmgren.

[SuperMatt18]

Just for fun.

MacDonald: GP: 82 G: 4 A: 24 P: 28 ESP: 16 +/-: -22 TOI/G: 24:37 PP: 2:52 SH: 2:22 Bks: 242 Hits: 69 Gva: 64

Butler: GP:82 G: 2 A: 14 P: 16 ESP: 15 +/-: -23 TOI/G: 20:15 PP: 0:20 SH: 2:41 Bks:211 Hits: 68 GVA: 69

Then the advanced stats:

MacDonald: Corsi: -13.26 Corsi Rel: -19.5 Off Zone Start: 48.8% Off Zone Finish: 49%

Butler: Corsi: -13.61 Corsi Rel: -8.9 Off Zone Start: 41.3% Off Zone Finish: 46.1

So MacDonald puts up worse numbers than Butler, but has much more favourable Offensive zone starts (48.8% vs 41.3%). This is like giving Butler a 6 year, $30 million dollar contract and then sheltering his defensive zone time.

Also judging by most advanced stats he has been the Flyers worst d-man since they acquired him: http://www.extraskater.com/players/o...team=phi&pos=D

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

if this sets the market, Butler is going to get a hefty pay raise

I'm all for Butler getting a hefty pay raise...on someone else's team. If Butler gets 3.5m with the Flames I'll be very upset.

[ClubFlames]

Awful deal. Wow.

This won't set the market for Butler, Burke is a much better negotiator than Homer - I hope! If not then bye bye Butler.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by ClubFlames

Awful deal. Wow.

This won't set the market for Butler, Burke is a much better negotiator than Homer - I hope! If not then bye bye Butler.

If I was Butler's agent though I go to UFA with this as the exact comparison.

Pretty much identical stats except for power play points which can be attributed to Butler getting no PP time while MacDonald played almost 3 minutes per game.

Looking at how identical their statistics are it actually makes me sad we couldn't move Butler at the deadline considering Philly gave up a 2nd and a 3rd for MacDonald.

[ClubFlames]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

If I was Butler's agent though I go to UFA with this as the exact comparison.

Pretty much identical stats except for power play points which can be attributed to Butler getting no PP time while MacDonald played almost 3 minutes per game.

Yeah that's fine, he has earned his right to test the market but no way he gets 5 mill per or anything even close to that from Burke atleast.

[nik-]

Holmgren gonna Holmgren.

[Huntingwhale]

I can't wait for the day the Flyers toil in mediocrity for a decade. Holmgrem signs such horrible contracts, yet his teams always find a way to stay competitive. What an odd contract.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Wow Butler's agent is probably doing cartwheels right now as he's probably going to get himself a deal in the $3.5 million/season range. Terrible deal because it throws the market off as agents of 3rd pairing defensemen are going to use this as an example in negotiating.

i'm fine with that as long as its not with us

[Fire]

Oh Flyers, don't you ever change.

[FAN]

Until things stabilize, these signings are going to force teams to keep crappy players since an upgrade wouldn't be worth it.