Van and Calgary - Worst tippers

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Reaper

I always tip on delivery because I appreciate the fact that the driver brought my food to my house.

It also limits the saliva content on future orders.

[Flames89]

Looking at their numbers, it looks like they are doing percentage of the whole bill. Not pretax (ie tipping on tax).
I generally do about 17% pretax. 20% for exceptional service, hotness, or high effort for low value item.

[StrykerSteve]

I tip 10%, unless it's exemplary service.

[EVERLAST]

Originally Posted by Jacks

I've talked to servers who said in the past Rev Can has gone after them based on average credit card tips. To me that's not really fair since they don't know if people tip the same by Credit card, debit or cash. I always tip in cash, I have never used the tip function on the keypad.

That has to be complete crap.

What if they are tipping out the kitchen/ bar / bussers ??
Rev Can has no f'in clue

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Major Major

Pretty embarrassing sentiment. No one should be working for 3 dollars an hour. Not in this country, nor in America.

Agreed. In the US the government subsidizes servers with food stamps. In Canada we subsidize server's cocaine addictions.

I'm sure there is a happy medium somewhere.

[socktape]

Originally Posted by Jacks

I've talked to servers who said in the past Rev Can has gone after them based on average credit card tips. To me that's not really fair since they don't know if people tip the same by Credit card, debit or cash. I always tip in cash, I have never used the tip function on the keypad.

I would think that even from a RC point of view would not be the only thing they'd look at. Most places now have point of sale systems that track what the servers sell for every tab they are responsible for. If your hot server rings in 1,000,000 in sales for one year they'd be looking for a percentage of that. At 15% that is 150,000 in tips for the year. They'd be interviewing the management as well and probebly get an idea of the tip out proceedure.

RC have to be extreamly thurough as their file on you is essentially a court case. Everything they do may have to go to court as taxes are a body of law and have to be treated as such. You wouldn't belive the detail they request in an audit even if the result is in your favour.

[rotten42]

Originally Posted by NomNomNom

Assuming you're talking about placing an order for pickup? If you don't tip on takeout orders, ask for a leader to take your order as they do not have to tip out at the end of the night. As a server, there is nothing worse than punching in a $100 to-go order then having to tip out on that at the end of the night. It sucks, because we lose money by doing this. Total gear grinder. I personally don't expect much tip on to-go's because it's not much of a hassle to take them (if we're not swamped) and it's not like we're waiting on your for an hour - most often or not I just transfer the orders to a leader.

Total entitlement right there! If I pick up my food no tip. If you feel you are getting shafted, get a better job where you don't have to rely on charity.

[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by rotten42

Total entitlement right there! If I pick up my food no tip. If you feel you are getting shafted, get a better job where you don't have to rely on charity.

Do you not understand what a tip out is?

At the end of the night the waitress has to add up all her sales for the night and a certain percentage of that is paid to the bus boys and cooks and such as a tip out. It doesn't matter if she received any tips that night she still has to pay the tip out.

If you don't tip her then she has to pay the tip out from her own pocket.
I don't think it is entitlement to want to avoid paying money to be employed.

[East Coast Flame]

After spending the summer in Europe I will never complain about tipping or the service in North America. The service in Europe was absolutely horrible almost everywhere.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by GP_Matt

Do you not understand what a tip out is?

At the end of the night the waitress has to add up all her sales for the night and a certain percentage of that is paid to the bus boys and cooks and such as a tip out. It doesn't matter if she received any tips that night she still has to pay the tip out.

The thing is, why should customers be expected to know how the inner-financial workings of a restaurant, or any business, works? People just want their effin pizza or whatever and to get out of there. They shouldn't have to sit there and figure out the most equitable solution for the whole staff.

If the bill is 8.50, but you really need it to be 10 bucks to make it work for the business and employees, then make it 10 bucks.

[ThePrince]

Originally Posted by East Coast Flame

After spending the summer in Europe I will never complain about tipping or the service in North America. The service in Europe was absolutely horrible almost everywhere.

Now go somewhere like Texas. Hands down the best service I've received anywhere. Coming back to Calgary, I was disgusted at the servers and how entitled they feel, even when they provide subpar service.

[Fuzzy14]

I would say that service quality in this city would increase if servers were allowed to take things like lunch breaks... maybe sit down for a couple of minutes during their shift.

I'd probably be pretty grouchy too if I'm on hour 7 without taking a minute off.

The restaurant business in this city is borderline slave labour in my opinion.

[Fuzzy14]

If you feel you are getting shafted, get a better job where you don't have to rely on charity.

If anything they're not relying on charity, they're becoming the charity when they have to tip out on an order for which they don't get paid. But hey, if your logic saves you your $4 dollars, who cares about the overworked university student trying to keep himself afloat right? What an entitled little rat that student is!

[burn_baby_burn]

I always tipped 22% out of pure laziness (just hit the 2 button twice). Regardless of service.

[rotten42]

Originally Posted by Table 5

The thing is, why should customers be expected to know how the inner-financial workings of a restaurant, or any business, works? People just want their effin pizza or whatever and to get out of there. They shouldn't have to sit there and figure out the most equitable solution for the whole staff.

If the bill is 8.50, but you really need it to be 10 bucks to make it work for the business and employees, then make it 10 bucks.

Exactly.

Either the business model is flawed or there are people who feel entitled to more than they should be. You don't like the model, better yourself then get a better job. It really is that simple. You are a product of your own effort and resolve.

[rotten42]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy14

If anything they're not relying on charity, they're becoming the charity when they have to tip out on an order for which they don't get paid. But hey, if your logic saves you your $4 dollars, who cares about the overworked university student trying to keep himself afloat right? What an entitled little rat that student is!

Cry me a f'n river of tears. I put myself through school working 3 jobs. If you aren't making enough money, get a different job or another job. It is called sacrifice.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy14

If anything they're not relying on charity, they're becoming the charity when they have to tip out on an order for which they don't get paid. But hey, if your logic saves you your $4 dollars, who cares about the overworked university student trying to keep himself afloat right? What an entitled little rat that student is!

Like Table5 said earlier- why should I have to leave a tip in a situation that doesn't deserve one just because there is a flaw in a restaurant's business model? Or why should I be forced to ask about how the system runs at that restaurant?

If servers are being asked unfairly to tip out based upon sales that do not generate tips, the solution is to take that unfairness out of the equation; not to make the customer have to pay for the imbalance.

[AMG_G]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy14

....I'd probably be pretty grouchy too if I'm on hour 7 without taking a minute off....

This is about the only thing in this thread you are actually entitled to.


An employee is entitled to at least 30 minutes of rest (break) in each shift longer than five consecutive hours of work. Likewise, employees are entitled to certain minimum days of rest as follows:

• one day of rest each work week, or
• two consecutive days of rest in each period of two consecutive work weeks, or
• three consecutive days of rest in each period of three consecutive work weeks, or
• four consecutive days of rest in each period of four consecutive work weeks, or
• at least four consecutive days of rest after 24 consecutive work days.

Source:http://work.alberta.ca/employment-st...s-of-rest.html

[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by Table 5

The thing is, why should customers be expected to know how the inner-financial workings of a restaurant, or any business, works? People just want their effin pizza or whatever and to get out of there. They shouldn't have to sit there and figure out the most equitable solution for the whole staff.

If the bill is 8.50, but you really need it to be 10 bucks to make it work for the business and employees, then make it 10 bucks.

I don't like the system either, but I don't take it out on the waitstaff.

I think tipping is so embedded in Canada that it is now a social contract whereby if you don't want to tip you should not go out to eat.

[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Like Table5 said earlier- why should I have to leave a tip in a situation that doesn't deserve one just because there is a flaw in a restaurant's business model? Or why should I be forced to ask about how the system runs at that restaurant?

If servers are being asked unfairly to tip out based upon sales that do not generate tips, the solution is to take that unfairness out of the equation; not to make the customer have to pay for the imbalance.

It isn't a flaw in the system that the tip out still has to go to the kitchen staff.
They still made your food with TLC. Should they be paid less because you aren't eating in the restaurant? I understand giving significantly smaller tips for take out, but 5% should still be left in my opinion.