The people who receive tips will always lean towards a higher tipping percentage regardless if they deserve it or not. Personally, I tip based on service. If you provide good service you get 15%. If you provide substandard service you get less and it is heavily dependent on attitude. If you provide poor service and you're a C U Next Tuesday then I will tip an insulting amount. If you provide above average service then I will tip 20%.
There is not the wage disparity between servers and minimum wage that exists in the United States. In some states servers' minimum wage is 1/3 of regular minimum wage. Maybe it should be that way here. Whenever I've traveled in the United States I always receive better service than anything I could receive in Calgary.
Also, I do not tip on takeout or at coffee shops. When I'm doing my job correctly no one stops by my desk to drop off some change. Why should I give you extra money because you did your job?
Couldn't agree more, the "base level" of service received in the US is much better across the board. It's often less enthusiastic, less small-talk "how's your day going? Oh I'm just working away blah blah blah", but the actual service is always bang on, orders are right, never waiting for a drink refill, not hunting down the bill ETC.
Honestly a friendly server is great, but I'd rather have a competent/attentive server than the chatty Kathy type who forgets your drink orders.
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I dont care if you balance my plates on your nose and can pour a beer from across the room or if you throw my meal on the table and break down crying about your ass of a boyfriend.
The difference is that in one case I'll spend more and be back often and the other I will not.
20-25%? You must be on crack. I am not giving a server a quarter of what my entire bill cost.
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I dont care if you balance my plates on your nose and can pour a beer from across the room or if you throw my meal on the table and break down crying about your ass of a boyfriend.
The difference is that in one case I'll spend more and be back often and the other I will not.
20-25%? You must be on crack. I am not giving a server a quarter of what my entire bill cost.
But what if she's hot? She'll totally hook up with you if you tip more.
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I dont care if you balance my plates on your nose and can pour a beer from across the room or if you throw my meal on the table and break down crying about your ass of a boyfriend.
The difference is that in one case I'll spend more and be back often and the other I will not.
20-25%? You must be on crack. I am not giving a server a quarter of what my entire bill cost.
Agree. I tip 15% on the vast majority of my restaurant bills. Only rarely go up or down if the service calls for it.
With regards to other services, I tip what I feel like, but it is usually in the 5-10% range. This would include hair stylists, cabs etc.
edit- a somewhat relevant story- I was at a restaurant in Canmore with the in-laws after a drive from Kelowna. Mother in law insisted on picking up the bill (as a sort of repayment for picking up the gas bill to kelowna), but left a horrendous tip for what was just fine service. She didn't have a problem with the service or food, she is just a lousy tipper. Left about 5%. So, I waited for them to leave first and then topped up the tip to 15%. Maybe this was wrong of me?
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Tipping culture is grossly overrated and over-hyped in US and Canada. Just came back from Switzerland, you don't tip there other than leaving small change/coins on the table. Food quality, goods quality, service quality and staff politeness are amongst the highest I have ever experienced and I've traveled a lot. This 20% "guideline" crap is really getting me irritated.
There is not the wage disparity between servers and minimum wage that exists in the United States. In some states servers' minimum wage is 1/3 of regular minimum wage. Maybe it should be that way here. Whenever I've traveled in the United States I always receive better service than anything I could receive in Calgary.
Also, I do not tip on takeout or at coffee shops. When I'm doing my job correctly no one stops by my desk to drop off some change. Why should I give you extra money because you did your job?
Pretty embarrassing sentiment. No one should be working for 3 dollars an hour. Not in this country, nor in America.
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Tipping culture is grossly overrated and over-hyped in US and Canada. Just came back from Switzerland, you don't tip there other than leaving small change/coins on the table. Food quality, goods quality, service quality and staff politeness are amongst the highest I have ever experienced and I've traveled a lot. This 20% "guideline" crap is really getting me irritated.
The way you're billed for that food and service is also different in Switzerland. It's not as simple as they get tipped less then they would in Canada. It's a completely different economy.
I think the tipping scale should be determined by some sort of rule system:
Start with 15% tipping. Every time period exceeded deducts 1% of 1 min
3 mins - Drinks service (order)
4 mins - Drink service (serve)
Drink top up will count as a 1% deduction should the drink reaches bottom of the glass. 5 mins for each 1% deduction until the drink is topped up.
So if it takes her 4 mins to get your drink over, 5 mins to serve it, and failed to top your gas up for 15 mins. she will only get 10%
Likewise if she's fast, you add to her tip.
Example:
1 mins drink order, 1 mins serve, always topped up drinks with no waiting period. That's a 20% tip.
Now, if there's a mad man shouting at you from the window, and he/she chases him away. That deserves another 5%. If the restaurant is haunted and you see a ghost, and you inform the waitress and she believes you, that is another 5%.
You can also expand on it by exploring tip options for food served. Like did he/she put her finger into your pie while serving it to you? Or did he/she splash the table with cutlery? Or were you screamed at to sit down?
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Exactly. Is it any surprise that this "study" comes out at the same time Square is doing a big advertising blitz in Canada? Two weeks ago, I didn't even know they were in Canada, now their ads are everywhere.
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having come back from Paris just recently, where the service fee is included in the price is great.
The fee is actual included in the price of the items on the menu and not added after on the bill.
There was no trying to figure out local customs and what we should tip. Just pay the bill and go. And service was spectacular when we were there. It was fairly consistent no matter what type of place (from a breakfast place to a nice sit down restaurant).
I would definitely be up for a system like that in Calgary.
I have a square and when I did my garage sale back in the summer no cheap ass calgarians left me a tip for selling them $10 worth of baby clothes or a $5 used rice cooker or $18 of Xmas wrapping paper. Cheap #######s!!
We really should be going the way of Australia / New Zealand / Japan... eliminate tipping altogether. In fact, in Japan, they find it insulting.
Why don't I get a tip? Why doesn't every worker in every industry get tips?
Maybe I sound like an old grouch, but I'm not sure why service staff need to get tipped anyways. The service they provide is part of their job - the job that they signed up for, knowing full well what it entails. Maybe companies should just boost the average hourly wage upwards like the above mentioned countries have, and we can eliminate tipping altogether.
In case you're wondering, I do tip 15-20%, but not because I want to. It's because I have to.
I have a square and when I did my garage sale back in the summer no cheap ass calgarians left me a tip for selling them $10 worth of baby clothes or a $5 used rice cooker or $18 of Xmas wrapping paper. Cheap #######s!!
But, did you have a tip option and an expectant face looking over them at the screen as they keyed it in.