Malaysia Jet missing-Officials conclude crash in Indian ocean/all lives presumed lost

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Ducay

I'd say my money (like most people) is on the southern corridor. Just look at the northern one, it makes no sense, based on the sheer volume and strength of military radar in that direction. Surely one of those nations would have noticed something. As well, if they wanted to get to China, they could have easily maintained their original course until into Chinese ATC area and then diverted.

I thought the same at first too, but I was reading last night (and am having a hard time trying to re-find the article) that these countries along the possible flight path don't actually do constant monitoring. India themselves admitted that the radar is on a "as needed" basis as opposed to it being constant.

There's the thought that countries will be embarrassed to admit their actual radar coverage and the fact that an airplane just wallowed through their airspace unchecked.

[prime333]

Without me having to read 38 pages. I have a question have they found the plane yet?

[Bmuzyka]

This makes me wonder, IF, the plane was safely brought to a secluded location and landed. Could this be part of a intricite Terrorist Plot. If they can't Hijack a plane In a Western Country, might they refuel this one and use it for something bad?

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Ducay

I'd say my money (like most people) is on the southern corridor. Just look at the northern one, it makes no sense, based on the sheer volume and strength of military radar in that direction. Surely one of those nations would have noticed something. As well, if they wanted to get to China, they could have easily maintained their original course until into Chinese ATC area and then diverted.

Yeah, my guess is that the plane is at the bottom of the ocean as well. The rest is not wanting to believe the simplest conclusion.

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by prime333

Without me having to read 38 pages. I have a question have they found the plane yet?

You could read just this page, probably even the post or two just before you to find out your answer. Or google, or...anything else really. Literally anything would be faster than typing that question and waiting for an answer.

[sharkov]

Not impossible to evade all of those countries radar after all a German teenager managed to evade the most complex air defence system in the world and landed in the middle of the kremlin in 1987 with only a glider

[Red]

Originally Posted by sharkov

Not impossible to evade all of those countries radar after all a German teenager managed to evade the most complex air defence system in the world and landed in the middle of the kremlin in 1987 with only a glider

Exactly. Plus, didn't the US carry out an air mission in Pakistan without being detected (Bin Laden killing)?

[BigNumbers]

Occam's Razor... She's at the bottom of the ocean. Probably an electrical glitch started shutting down systems, hence the odd time line for ACRS/transponter shut down.. eventually had full electronic failure and down she goes....

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by sharkov

Not impossible to evade all of those countries radar after all a German teenager managed to evade the most complex air defence system in the world and landed in the middle of the kremlin in 1987 with only a glider

Wow, that's one heck of a glider. It was a Cessna 172.

Great write-up on that incident here:

http://www.airspacemag.com/history-o...101888/?no-ist

[Envitro]

Yeah but they had Stealth helicopters.. Big difference there.

With that said, if you fly in an established commercial/civil air corridor at a prescribed altitude that is usually flown by commercial aircraft (i.e. FL380) then most likely you will be ignored since they won't see it as anything unusual. Especially in the middle of the night...

I'm sure that the pilots of MH370 would have known this and would have taken advantage of it.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by BigNumbers

Occam's Razor... She's at the bottom of the ocean. Probably an electrical glitch started shutting down systems, hence the odd time line for ACRS/transponter shut down.. eventually had full electronic failure and down she goes....

Agreed. My guess is that there was combination of things that happened and the plane tried to return, communication was lost, and due to either mechanical failure (or perhaps decompression issues), that the plane ended up stuck on auto pilot going in the wrong direction until it crashed.

I just can't believe any of these conspiracy theories right now. Maybe at the most, it was a suicide by the pilot.

[puckluck2]

Nm I'm hooked on phonics.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Agreed. My guess is that there was combination of things that happened and the plane tried to return, communication was lost, and due to either mechanical failure (or perhaps decompression issues), that the plane ended up stuck on auto pilot going in the wrong direction until it crashed.

I just can't believe any of these conspiracy theories right now. Maybe at the most, it was a suicide by the pilot.

It's likely it's at the bottom of the sea, I mean that really is the most logical conclusion. However, the suicide thing just makes all the evasion seem so excessive. Why not just crash it?

[Red]

Originally Posted by nik-

It's likely it's at the bottom of the sea, I mean that really is the most logical conclusion. However, the suicide thing just makes all the evasion seem so excessive. Why not just crash it?

That's my problem with the "crash on purpose" scenario too. Why fly for 7 hours if you just waned to crash anyways.

Hijacking with the intent to either land it or do a 911 thing at least makes some sense.

The plane landing somewhere secret is very unlikely, but it's probably what most people want to see. Gives people hope that the passengers are still alive. Maybe that's why some keep bringing it up?

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Red

That's my problem with the "crash on purpose" scenario too. Why fly for 7 hours if you just waned to crash anyways.

Hijacking with the intent to either land it or do a 911 thing at least makes some sense.

The plane landing somewhere secret is very unlikely, but it's probably what most people want to see. Gives people hope that the passengers are still alive. Maybe that's why some keep bringing it up?

Most people might want to have that hope, but if you ask me if they did land the plane somewhere as part of a theft for future use scenario none of those passengers are still alive. They would've been disposed of immediately.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by sharkov

Not impossible to evade all of those countries radar after all a German teenager managed to evade the most complex air defence system in the world and landed in the middle of the kremlin in 1987 with only a glider

People tend to forget that while the Soviets of the time had a awesome air defense system, Rust choose the one day when nobody would be alert and half of the borders guards and military would be on leave and drunk

[GoinAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I just can't believe any of these conspiracy theories right now

Some of them are out of control. My personal favourite was a poster asking if there was "any credible theories involving aliens"

[Cheerio]

What do you guys think of this theory?

http://keithledgerwood.tumblr.com/po...ing-sia68-sq68

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

What do you guys think of this theory?

http://keithledgerwood.tumblr.com/po...ing-sia68-sq68

Yeah we talked about it some pages back, I think someone also posted another plane that they could have followed too.

Seems unlikely, but who the hell knows at this point.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Most people might want to have that hope, but if you ask me if they did land the plane somewhere as part of a theft for future use scenario none of those passengers are still alive. They would've been disposed of immediately.

This is where I'm at with it. I don't see why there would be "deliberate action" to turn off the transponder and ACARS and go on a new flight path for 4+ hours only to crash into the Indian Ocean. It must have landed somewhere?! (I think, anyways)

But I also think there is about 0% chance any of the passengers are still alive.