03-12-2014, 08:06 PM
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#321
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by browna
Tate likely to go as well...he, like many average players, want to cash in on the small window that comes notoriety of the SB appearance, in addition to now getting that ring and crossing that off the list.
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He's a lot more than likely to go he has already signed with Detroit.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10...five-year-deal
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03-12-2014, 08:12 PM
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#322
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Who is Denver's core exactly behind an ageing Manning and Von Miller?
Does DeMarcus Ware not have Bruce Smith potentially written on him? Are you saying there aren't any question marks surrounding Talib and Ward?
EDIT: Look at some of Snyder's signings and tell me there aren't some parallels.
1. DeAngelo Hall - Aqib Talib
2. Adam Archuleta - TJ Ward
3. DeMarcus Ware - Bruce Smith
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I think your missing my point. I don't know how similar your three comparables will turn out to be. Neither do you I might add. To use your format, my point is, who was Dan Snyders Peyton Manning comparable? D Thomas? By some measures, Denver had the best offense in the history of the sport last year, but they were soft in the secondary. When else are they going to have a window that includes the best offense in the history of the game with one of the best QB's, if not the best QB in the history of the game, in what is now, moreso than ever a QB league? If you want to be pretty good, or 'solid' then do nothing, but this is a good time to swing for the fences and sell out for a couple years.
DeAngelo Hall, Adam Archuleta and B Smith didn't have a best ever on the other side of the ball, so that's the difference.
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03-12-2014, 08:13 PM
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#323
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moon
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Ok well there you go. Decent receiver and can return kicks. Stuck through some of the dark years in Seattle and unlike some Notre Dame grads, lived up to his draft position. As I said, perfect case of getting that ring and then taking care of himself. This year saw the emergence of Kearse and Baldwin, while not built as solidly, as just as good receivers with solid hands.
Tate was never going to be a speed guy, but is pretty big and solid and doesn't mind taking hits, and has dependable hands. Should be a good second option for Stafford after Calvin Johnson.
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03-12-2014, 08:51 PM
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#324
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Raiders let Veldheer walk. Sign a lesser OL in Safford (not a true OT, rather a OG) for more money than Veldheer. Safford fails physical. All with 66M+ in cap space left.
From a team that brought Art Shell back, have had a merry-go-round at QB since 2003 and who's best, longest tenured and most recognizable player is a fat, frequently drunk kicker, I present the 2014 Oakland Raiders.
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03-12-2014, 09:17 PM
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#325
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy
Raiders let Veldheer walk. Sign a lesser OL in Safford (not a true OT, rather a OG) for more money than Veldheer. Safford fails physical. All with 66M+ in cap space left.
From a team that brought Art Shell back, have had a merry-go-round at QB since 2003 and who's best, longest tenured and most recognizable player is a fat, frequently drunk kicker, I present the 2014 Oakland Raiders.
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You have to think the Raiders will go after guys like Vick, DRC, and maybe Peppers now.
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03-12-2014, 09:57 PM
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#326
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Eric Decker signs with the New York Jets. Thought he would go to a team with a good QB. Decker is a good receiver but interesting how he does with Geno Smith as QB.
5 years/36.25 M with 15 M guaranteed.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/stor...wr-eric-decker
Last edited by OILFAN #81; 03-12-2014 at 10:06 PM.
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03-12-2014, 11:56 PM
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#327
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
The big question is always team chemistry, and it generally seems to wind up lacking on these teams that try to win it all through free agency. Look at the Eagles of three years ago. They brought in a tonne of guys with good pedigree but they didn't mesh. A lot of the Philly beat writers talked about how there was a lot of resentment from some of the existing players who saw these new guys come in and be handed starting jobs and big paycheques.
I'm not saying this is guaranteed to happen with the Broncos but there is some precedent here.
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If this was offense, and with a QB that wasn't Peyton Manning caliber, I would agree, but since it's on the other side of the ball, chemistry isn't as important in order for the unit to be efficient. The risk isn't as high as it would be with offense. As long as each player do their individual role, the defense should perform better than last season, which is why the signings were made.
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03-13-2014, 01:10 AM
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#328
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joborule
If this was offense, and with a QB that wasn't Peyton Manning caliber, I would agree, but since it's on the other side of the ball, chemistry isn't as important in order for the unit to be efficient. The risk isn't as high as it would be with offense. As long as each player do their individual role, the defense should perform better than last season, which is why the signings were made.
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I think chemistry is much more important on the defensive side if the ball. Like I said, look at the dream team Eagles. All sorts of talent on the defensive side but no chemistry and they were one of the worst defenses in the league. Same with the Cowboys and Giants last year.
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03-13-2014, 06:21 AM
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#329
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Austin, Tx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OILFAN #81
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I like the signing as long as the Jets still draft a receiver in the 1st round. I think Decker is a great #2 but don't think he is quite good enough to be a #1. He did have 600 yds receiving with Tebow, so he should be alright with Smith who throws the ball a lot more.
Also, my wife is a fan of the signing because he is beautiful.
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03-13-2014, 07:00 AM
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#330
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamingLonghorn
I like the signing as long as the Jets still draft a receiver in the 1st round. I think Decker is a great #2 but don't think he is quite good enough to be a #1. He did have 600 yds receiving with Tebow, so he should be alright with Smith who throws the ball a lot more.
Also, my wife is a fan of the signing because he is beautiful.
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I'm a fan, but he can be frustrating. Too many drops. He's tough though, and I think that's important for the position.
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03-13-2014, 08:38 AM
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#331
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sadly not in the Dome.
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Eagles pick up Sproles for a 5th. Interesting to say the least. Hope it doesn't cost us Brown or Polk as I like the potential they both have. Sproles is probably the slot receiver and return man.
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03-13-2014, 08:40 AM
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#332
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Franchise Player
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Hakeem Nicks and Steve Smith visiting New England. Pats want to sign at least one of them.
Edleman is still a strong possibility to return as well.
Brandon Browner also in new England today.
Last edited by Cheese; 03-13-2014 at 08:43 AM.
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03-13-2014, 09:48 AM
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#333
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Calgary
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Decker is reminding me of Sidney Rice right now. Be an anonymous WR, play with a legendary QB, put up huge numbers, cash in somewhere else and never replicate those numbers.
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03-13-2014, 09:58 AM
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#334
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Decker put up 600 yards and 8TDs when Tebow was QB, which translates to about 1,200 yards and 13 TDs for a normal QB. I think he's better than Rice but still not worth what the Jets paid.
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03-13-2014, 12:34 PM
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#335
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Franchise Player
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Wilfork has asked to be released. I guess he didn't like that they wanted to restructure his contract and wasn't willing to take a paycut.
7.8 mill on his last year I think. The Pats could use the cap room.
Last edited by Flabbibulin; 03-13-2014 at 12:36 PM.
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03-13-2014, 12:42 PM
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#336
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Galakanokis
Eagles pick up Sproles for a 5th. Interesting to say the least. Hope it doesn't cost us Brown or Polk as I like the potential they both have. Sproles is probably the slot receiver and return man.
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Polk might be gone but Brown has too much raw potential to cut. Instant upgrade to the return game. I'd like to see defenses line up against Sproles, McCoy, Jackson, and Maclin.
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03-13-2014, 12:44 PM
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#337
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Zuma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flabbibulin
Wilfork has asked to be released. I guess he didn't like that they wanted to restructure his contract and wasn't willing to take a paycut.
7.8 mill on his last year I think. The Pats could use the cap room.
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Man that sucks. Wilfork is a beast. Sure they could use the cap space but I would have to thing Wilfork is more valuable to the team then cap space
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03-13-2014, 12:53 PM
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#338
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
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Are they going to draft two QB's in the first round? That would not shock me.
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03-13-2014, 02:15 PM
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#340
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burke Salad
Are they going to draft two QB's in the first round? That would not shock me.
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The talk is they might not even draft one QB. They might go with Hoyer and Schaub/Grossman.
That would be a big mistake IMO. Keep drafting QBs until you get it right.
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