03-05-2014, 04:34 PM
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Burke got pretty damn good value for Berra considering what other rentals, especially goalies were going for.
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03-05-2014, 04:34 PM
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#302
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Originally Posted by $ven27
Roy can discuss trades with teams, as does Sakic. But any deal Roy has Sakic has the last say in it.
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Do you think Patrick Roy, the head coach, is actively starting trade discussions, or taking part in them with other teams at all?
I'm sure Sakic might bounce ideas and options with him but Roy isn't talking to other teams GM's, especially starting trade talks.
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03-05-2014, 04:38 PM
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#303
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Comparing the Kiprusoff trade to this is ridiculous. Kiprusoff had struggled the year prior to the trade with San Jose but he had also shown the ability to play in the NHL the year before that and had dominated the AHL (924/926 save percentage in his two years in the AHL). Berra does not even have anywhere near the resume of Kiprusoff.
The Flames also acquired Kiprusoff because they needed a starter while Turek was hurt to avoid having to go with Jamie McLellan. I assume the Avs will keep Berra up rather than expose him to waivers but he's still going to be the 2nd/3rd goalie there.
I also believe even then that the pick was a conditional 2nd (not sure what the conditions were and they were obviously met)
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03-05-2014, 04:48 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Halifax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Do you think Patrick Roy, the head coach, is actively starting trade discussions, or taking part in them with other teams at all?
I'm sure Sakic might bounce ideas and options with him but Roy isn't talking to other teams GM's, especially starting trade talks.
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No idea. I'm sure he puts his two cents in very much so though, IIRC he was the guy that made that Talbot -Downie deal and Sakic gave him the okay. Actually I'm pretty sure he can, he is the VP of hockey Operations.
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03-05-2014, 04:51 PM
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#305
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under
So, someone correct me if I am wrong, but going into the 2014 draft we have a lottery pick, two 2nd round picks and 2 3rd round picks...?
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03-05-2014, 04:52 PM
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#306
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Do you think Patrick Roy, the head coach, is actively starting trade discussions, or taking part in them with other teams at all?
I'm sure Sakic might bounce ideas and options with him but Roy isn't talking to other teams GM's, especially starting trade talks.
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Roy can and does make trades. It is part of his duties as VP of Hockey Operations. His position is pretty unique within the NHL. He is about as close as you get to having the dual role of Coach/GM right now.
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03-05-2014, 04:58 PM
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#307
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Originally Posted by btimbit
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Missing our 4th from the Colborne deal and our 5th from the Russell deal.
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03-05-2014, 05:00 PM
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GOAT!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Do you think Patrick Roy, the head coach, is actively starting trade discussions...
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Perhaps not, but I'm sure Patrick Roy, the Head Coach and Vice President of Hockey Operations, is.
Edit: Wow, am I ever slow.
Last edited by FanIn80; 03-05-2014 at 05:07 PM.
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03-05-2014, 05:03 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DOOM
Missing our 4th from the Colborne deal and our 5th from the Russell deal.
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Just meant to be the picks we still own
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03-05-2014, 05:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by $ven27
No idea. I'm sure he puts his two cents in very much so though, IIRC he was the guy that made that Talbot -Downie deal and Sakic gave him the okay. Actually I'm pretty sure he can, he is the VP of hockey Operations.
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Totally forgot that set up, unique for sure. Thanks for the correction.
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03-05-2014, 05:07 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by btimbit
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Not great for a rebuilding team. Hopefully they stockpile for 2015
A plus for me is that the Berra 2nd and our third are so close together that hopefully we can grab two highly rated guys who might slip a little bit.
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03-05-2014, 05:07 PM
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#312
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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So wait, why are there asterisks around the pick in the title again? It's not conditional is it?
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03-05-2014, 05:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Comparing the Kiprusoff trade to this is ridiculous. Kiprusoff had struggled the year prior to the trade with San......
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I meant it could have been a steal for us, getting a 2nd round pick for Berra.
But consider this, it was part of the JBo trade...
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03-05-2014, 05:11 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Do you think Patrick Roy, the head coach, is actively starting trade discussions, or taking part in them with other teams at all?
I'm sure Sakic might bounce ideas and options with him but Roy isn't talking to other teams GM's, especially starting trade talks.
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Not sure if this has changed since May.
https://twitter.com/LavoieRenaud/sta...74244385775616
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03-05-2014, 05:11 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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I could have sworn O. Roy was Patrick's son.
You try to make a joke around here.... 
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03-05-2014, 05:14 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neo45
Not great for a rebuilding team. Hopefully they stockpile for 2015
A plus for me is that the Berra 2nd and our third are so close together that hopefully we can grab two highly rated guys who might slip a little bit.
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The Flames need to get more picks in the top 100. Ideally they would have 8 or 9 in that range in each of the next 3 years. We need to get more high end skill in the organization and that only gets there if you've got a lot of darts towards the top of the draft to try and hit the mark.
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03-05-2014, 05:30 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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I'll miss that accent 
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03-05-2014, 05:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
The Flames need to get more picks in the top 100. Ideally they would have 8 or 9 in that range in each of the next 3 years. We need to get more high end skill in the organization and that only gets there if you've got a lot of darts towards the top of the draft to try and hit the mark.
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When has that ever happened for any team?
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03-05-2014, 05:33 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
I assume the Avs will keep Berra up rather than expose him to waivers but he's still going to be the 2nd/3rd goalie there.
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Berra is waiver exempt for the rest of the season.
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03-05-2014, 05:35 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
When has that ever happened for any team?
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I much prefer to get higher picks, but we need more than the 7 total picks that we have now.
Chicago and LA stockpiled picks like hoarders in the period just after the lockout if I remember correctly.
They did alright.
Chicago had 10 picks in 03 (Seabrook, Crawford Byfuglien)
17 picks in 04 (Barker Bolland Bickell Brouwer)
12 in 05 (Hjalmarsson)
LA 10 in 07 (Simmonds, Martinez, King)
9 in 08 (Doughty, Voynov, Loktionov)
10 in 09 (Schenn, Clifford, Vey, Nolan)
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