Who will be the first flame traded?

[hurtin_albertan]

Originally Posted by HartAttack

How does trading Butler for a 3rd round pick make our team better now, or in the future? Only 12% of players drafted in the 3rd round or later make an NHL career (at least 200 NHL games). You don't just make trades because it's fun, there has to be something in it for both sides, and Burke isn't going to trade a big minute guy for a 3rd round pick.

I do however think Cammy gets traded for a late 1st round pick and a prospect nobody's ever heard of.

Butler is hardly a big minute guy. You've got Gio, Brodie, Wideman, and Russell all averaging over 23 minutes a game, then Butler and Smid clocking in at just under 20. Smid easily replaces Butler in all aspects of the game, and then all you're left in terms of holes to fill is a 6th defenseman that doesn't #### the bed at every given opportunity (i.e. Derek Smith).

Problem solved, and yes, Chris Butler is a problem.

[Muta]

I have a feeling the only player traded is Mike Cammalleri, and he's moved for a 2nd round pick and a B-prospect.

EDIT: More specifically, Mike Cammalleri to Anaheim for Devante Smith-Pelley and a 2nd rounder.

[Bingo]

so the answer isn't Dan Bouchard?

[you got PHANUEFED]

Cammy + Brodie + retaining $ will be a package I see put together for a BIG return.

Stemps needs a big game vs the wild to even get a sniff from other teams, 3rd rounder at best.

Buttler will be a last minute type guy after teams missed out on their A,B,C,D GUY .

[Goodlad]

Originally Posted by Scoutski

Wideman is 31 later this month and will be at least 33-34 before the Flames even have a chance of being a competitor. Gardiner will have the time to grow along with a bunch of other up and comers.

The only young defenceman we've got going right now is TJ (Kris Russell is next at 26 which is debatably young too).

I'm not saying that's a sound "They should definitely do it", but I would be pretty happy to see it happen.

My question was less about why would the Flames trade Wideman, and more about "why would Flames have to add a 3rd to Wideman in order to get Jake Gardiner?"

I think you're greatly underestimating the value of Wideman, or overestimating the value of Gardiner. I think a lot of teams would have interest in a 2nd pairing RH shot d-man that can QB a powerplay, and would likely give up a Gardiner caliber prospect without Flames having to throw in a pick.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Muta

I have a feeling the only player traded is Mike Cammalleri, and he's moved for a 2nd round pick and a B-prospect.

EDIT: More specifically, Mike Cammalleri to Anaheim for Devante Smith-Pelley and a 2nd rounder.

I would be happy with that trade

[ForeverFlameFan]

TJ Brodie isn't going anywhere, I see him staying with us for a long time. 23 years old and arguably the second-best defenseman on our team. We lack defense, we're not trading him.

If any D is being traded on the Flames, it's a 50/50 between Butler and Wideman. And lately, Butler has been playing better than Wideman, so I am not even sure what one I would prefer to stay if only one was traded.

[Alberta_Beef]

I think if Butler is traded for straight picks, he will fetch a 2nd rounder.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by you got PHANUEFED

Cammy + Brodie + retaining $ will be a package I see put together for a BIG return.

Stemps needs a big game vs the wild to even get a sniff from other teams, 3rd rounder at best.

Buttler will be a last minute type guy after teams missed out on their A,B,C,D GUY .

Why would we punch a hole like that into our lineup and our future lineup?

Trading Brodie would be silly. If the return is a young skilled forward, now we need a young skilled D-man again. If it's a D-man, why not just keep our guy with an as yet undetermined potential?

[dammage79]

David Jones, tomorrow @ 8:47 a.m PST. To Nashville for a pick.

[Ring of Fire]

Originally Posted by HartAttack

How does trading Butler for a 3rd round pick make our team better now, or in the future? Only 12% of players drafted in the 3rd round or later make an NHL career (at least 200 NHL games). You don't just make trades because it's fun, there has to be something in it for both sides, and Burke isn't going to trade a big minute guy for a 3rd round pick.

I do however think Cammy gets traded for a late 1st round pick and a prospect nobody's ever heard of.

Trading Butler for a pick won't make us better this season but he's a UFA at the end of the season and there has been no talk of contract in the media. If the Flames don't want him back or Butler doesn't want to be back it makes sense to trade him for anything as he's not going to be a part of a playoff run this year in Calgary.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Ring of Fire

Trading Butler for a pick won't make us better this season but he's a UFA at the end of the season and there has been no talk of contract in the media. If the Flames don't want him back or Butler doesn't want to be back it makes sense to trade him for anything as he's not going to be a part of a playoff run this year in Calgary.

who is?

[King Theo]

This first trade is Wideman within the next 24 hours.
Cammy get traded early Wednesday am, for a 1st and some "prospect"
Butler will not be traded, no one will want him.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

who is?

Jake Virtanen

[sun]

Hudler.

[EYE_Overstand]

I doubt we move a lot on Wednesday seeing as we have a game that night... But Abby is only 1 he flight away so who knows

[EYE_Overstand]

How much money are we away from the salary cap floor for this season?

[CsInMyBlood]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I think if Butler is traded for straight picks, he will fetch a 2nd rounder.

Highly doubt that, Feaster isn't an NHL GM anymore.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Absolutely no evidence points to us trading our 23-year old first-pairing D in the first year of his bridge deal.

He's not going anywhere.

Did Feaster sign Brodie to his new deal or was that Burke?

[Imported_Aussie]

Everything is waiting on Vanek, then once that domino falls, Moulson and Cammalleri come into play. Stempniak is a lesser (but cheaper) prize. Butler and Galiardi may not garner enough interest, but if there is any out there, I expect Burke to cash in.

I would say Cammalleri goes first, to Anaheim for a package including Sami Vatanen