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Old 02-11-2014, 09:34 AM   #101
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when the leaders go are we allowed to cheer for crashes?
No. #sportsmanship
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Some of these halfpipe spills look brutal.
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Stupid Norway.
And they still have 15 more Biathlon/Cross-Country events. At least in seven of them they are only allowed one medal...although, that means they are guaranteed a minimum 7 more medals. It's no surprise they were projected at 35 medals.
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No. #sportsmanship
Did you hear the story about the BBC getting 300+ complaints because they were screaming so loudly during the women's snowboard slopestyle for the GB girl to win Bronze they were cheering falls? At one point that had to turn off the chick's microphone cause she was yelling so loudly.
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I've also had no trouble with the CBC online feed myself.

And yeah, there should probably be a big "*" next to Norway's total...
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I've also had no trouble with the CBC online feed myself.

And yeah, there should probably be a big "*" next to Norway's total...
I think to balance it out there should be 15 mogul events. Just to be fair.
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And they still have 15 more Biathlon/Cross-Country events. At least in seven of them they are only allowed one medal...although, that means they are guaranteed a minimum 7 more medals. It's no surprise they were projected at 35 medals.
Will the Netherlands do anything though once speedskating is done?
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GIF of Yuki Tsobota's crash... if this is just a broken jaw, I'm sure she'll take it. Brutal.



That course was pretty dangerous for the girls... almost wonder if it would've been better if they'd just closed the bigger jumps and had everyone go off the small side.
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I've also had no trouble with the CBC online feed myself.

And yeah, there should probably be a big "*" next to Norway's total...
Why? I realize it's a lot of medals in two disciplines, but it's not like other nations can't compete. In fact, it used to be much easier for Norway, when there was less of these other unique sports and mostly just running on skis. I'm sure we would be good too if we didn't build trains for more useful travel, unlike those silly Norwegians that go from town to town in a lane groove.

EDIT: As exciting as the Pursuit is, it's definitely the one event I'd say is "cheating". People who did well in the first race have an advantage in the second to make it relatively easy to win two gold medals? hilarious.

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Will the Netherlands do anything though once speedskating is done?
Nope. They sure are impressive at it though, aren't they?
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Why? I realize it's a lot of medals in two disciplines, but it's not like other nations can't compete.
Sure. So while we're at it, let's add medals for the top 3 defencemen, best forwards and best goaltenders at ice hockey, add in a couple of additional moguls events (say, three jumps instead of two and another mogul event that's just moguls and has no jumps, and then another one with rails instead of jumps), add in a second halfpipe competition where the only difference is the halfpipe is twice as long, add in another discipline where you have to do a halfpipe run followed by a slopestyle run, etc etc etc. It's not like other countries can't compete with Canada and the USA!

Different lengths of the same sport shouldn't really have separate medals. If you want to include different versions of the same thing, feel free, but the overall combined winner gets the gold, not the winner of each one. I feel much the same about the summer events.
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Sure. So while we're at it, let's add medals for the top 3 defencemen, best forwards and best goaltenders at ice hockey, add in a couple of additional moguls events (say, three jumps instead of two and another mogul event that's just moguls and has no jumps, and then another one with rails instead of jumps), add in a second halfpipe competition where the only difference is the halfpipe is twice as long, add in another discipline where you have to do a halfpipe run followed by a slopestyle run, etc etc etc. It's not like other countries can't compete with Canada and the USA!

Different lengths of the same sport shouldn't really have separate medals. If you want to include different versions of the same thing, feel free, but the overall combined winner gets the gold, not the winner of each one. I feel much the same about the summer events.
Congratulations on just eliminating like 35% of the events, I'm sure the IOC will be pleased. Look, just because we're Canadian and suck at cross-country doesn't mean anything. Cross-country skiing is the most diverse international sport (not diverse in style, diverse in reach) in the Olympics with a ridiculous amount of entrants from around the world. The argument against different distances is that -usually- it is different competitors who succeed at those different distances. If anything, Canada has a bigger advantage when it comes to say, Short Track Speed Skating, where people comparatively do not get tired, than the -same- Norwegian has at being good at a 5km distance compared to a 30km distance.

Out of all 8 Biathlon/Cross-Country events that have finished, no athlete has 2 medals. Sweden has almost as many medals as Norway in Cross-Country.

Every part of your argument is apples and oranges based on how you view the sport. There is less similarity between a sprint and a classic than there is between 500m and 1000m of skating.

Anyway, let's maybe stop complaining about other countries and what they are good at and enjoy the Olympic games.
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FWIW, my comment does apply equally to speed skating, though the difference between short and long track is obviously significant enough to warrant a different event. But if I can't tell what event it is within 5 seconds of looking at what's going on on the TV, I don't think it's enough of a difference.
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Old 02-11-2014, 10:29 AM   #114
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Here's an interesting quote from Chanelle Sladics regarding Kim Lamarre.

"This talented women has overcome more trials and tribulations the past 2 years in regards to her ski career than anyone I know! After 2nd ACL injury the lack of support from national team or personal sponsors to pursue her dream to debut womens #slopestyle skiing to the masses was almost completely eliminated! Her story is a true inspiration and I have never doubted her success along the way! Her grandma was also an Olympic medal!!!! They have two in the family now!!!! Congratulations dear friend @kim_lamarre! You did it! You believed in yourself- when few choose too! And you created an epic fairy tail!! #welldeserved #olympicbronze #oakleywomen"
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FWIW, my comment does apply equally to speed skating, though the difference between short and long track is obviously significant enough to warrant a different event. But if I can't tell what event it is within 5 seconds of looking at what's going on on the TV, I don't think it's enough of a difference.
Then you should watch speed skating more often than once every 4 years.
There is a ton of difference between a sprinter and a long distance skater.

It's like pitting Usain Bolt vs Mo Farrah. Two completely different athletes running two very different races.
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Will the Netherlands do anything though once speedskating is done?
Speed skating is huge there. Whenever it gets cold enough that the canals freeze, they have a huge race by 11 cities:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elfstedentocht

It's really cool
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Whooo, bravo Erin Hamlin!!!
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Then you should watch speed skating more often than once every 4 years.
There is a ton of difference between a sprinter and a long distance skater.

It's like pitting Usain Bolt vs Mo Farrah. Two completely different athletes running two very different races.
You read his comment wrong. He can tell the difference between speed-skating, just not cross-country skiing disciplines.

Anyway, moving on from this silly Norwegian discussion, Alex Gough will finish 4th. Two in the Top 5 is fantastic considering our usually poor Luge showings.
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I can tell the difference easily (duh) between long and short track, and if it's relay / pursuit or whatever. But the difference between 1500 and 5000? Not immediately obvious from looking at the screen.
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Then you should watch speed skating more often than once every 4 years.
There is a ton of difference between a sprinter and a long distance skater.
It's like pitting Usain Bolt vs Mo Farrah. Two completely different athletes running two very different races.
This is a fair comment I guess - my perspective has more to do with my intuitive reaction, which is "same playing field, same equipment, same overall goal... same sport". However, this is coming from a layperson, and being fully cognizant that there's going to be plenty of ignorance flying around once the sport I actually know well starts I'll defer.

Speaking of which, here's Dara Howell's post-victory interview.

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I read his comment as he can tell the difference between short track and long track but not 500m vs 1500m vs 5000m.
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