Our friends have a kid deathly allergic, almost died once already and they have taken the place 100% of the responsibility on the kid to look after their own safety thing. I don't think I could do it that way but I bet it is a lot more comfortable living like that.
We have always let our son know to be conscious of what is around him regarding his nut allergy. He is pretty diligent about it....his older sister even more so. We try not to put him into situations where he is at risk for exposure. For instance I can’t take him to a Stamps game because of all the peanuts. Still, the ####ing attitude that some people have towards being unconvinced is somehow valid makes me want to take a couple good swings with a baseball bat!
I guess maybe it is just pure ignorance on some people's part that they don't understand that just touching the crumbs of a peanut butter cookie can trigger a reaction.
The over use of the words "bigot" and "hate". At times on this very site. Its getting to the point where it is like the word "epic". They are used so often, for such small differences in opinion that they are becoming trend words that are losing meaning and hold very little impact anymore.
Often, a person accusing someone else of "spreadig hate" that they become far more hateful than the person they are chastising.
It makes everyone on all sides of every issus look bad.
**hides and waits to be accused of bigotry**
Add 'ignorant' or 'ignorance' to the list too. If you disagree with anyone on any issue ever.
I would say I hope that you have a kid who is anaphylactic to peanuts so you can experience as a parent what it is like to know that simply having the kid next to your eating peanut butter can kill your kid…..but I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. Pure ignorance!
32 Deaths EVER in North America, 9 in Schools. Riding the school bus is a greater risk then peanut butter. The 9 deaths are attributed to not getting an Epi Pen soon enough.
We need to follow evidence based solutions and not draconian bans. There is absolutely no literature to sugest bans are an effective way of preventing anaphaltic shock. We want people to follow science when it comes to Vaccines. That same standard needs to be maintained when talking about food bans.
(for links to the above numbers see my post in the thread on this topic)
The worst part of this is some schools (my daughters preschool) have banned homemade snacks from being taken to school even if they don't have peanuts in do to fear of cross contamination. Instead they require snacks to be sealed with peanut free labling. So instead of more nutricious home baked snacks they are promoting processed garbage. Though they still do allow vegatables, but I am not sure how they can justify cut up vegatables that have a risk of cross contamination when they won't allow other baked goods.
edit: my numbers above are completely wrong. See wormius post below. You are looking at about 60 to 100 deaths per year total which extrapolates to 15 to 25 kids per year which makes it about as dangerous as school buses.
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32 Deaths EVER in North America, 9 in Schools. Riding the school bus is a greater risk then peanut butter. The 9 deaths are attributed to not getting an Epi Pen soon enough.
We need to follow evidence based solutions and not draconian bans. There is absolutely no literature to sugest bans are an effective way of preventing anaphaltic shock. We want people to follow science when it comes to Vaccines. That same standard needs to be maintained when talking about food bans.
(for links to the above numbers see my post in the thread on this topic)
The worst part of this is some schools (my daughters preschool) have banned homemade snacks from being taken to school even if they don't have peanuts in do to fear of cross contamination. Instead they require snacks to be sealed with peanut free labling. So instead of more nutricious home baked snacks they are promoting processed garbage. Though they still do allow vegatables, but I am not sure how they can justify cut up vegatables that have a risk of cross contamination when they won't allow other baked goods.
That number is wrong. That number of 32 was taken from a report as a sample size taken from a larger number of total deaths that were then further studied for specific allergy and other details surrounding the death. That report is referenced in a CDC study on allergies and anaphylaxis. I will list them later when I get to a computer.
Footnotes as promised, spoilers tags as to not annoy:
Sicherer SH, Munoz-Furlong A, Sampson HA. Prevalence of peanut and tree nut allergy in the United States determined by means of random digit dial telephone survey: a 5-year follow-up study. J Allergy Clin Immunol; 112:1203-7. 2003.
Grundy J, Matthews S, Bateman B, Dean T, Arshad SH. Rising prevalence of allergy to peanut in children: data from 2 sequential cohorts. J Allergy Clin Immunol; 110:784-9. 2002.
Bock SA, Munoz-Furlong A, Sampson HA. Further fatalities caused by anaphylactic reactions to food, 2001-2006. J Allergy Clin Immunol; 119:1016-18. 2007.
Colver AF, Nevantaus H, Macdougall CF, Cant AJ. Severe food-allergic reactions in children across the UK and Ireland, 1998-2000. Acta Paediatr; 94:689-95. 2005.
Fatalities due to anaphylactic reactions to foods.
Bock SA, Muñoz-Furlong A, Sampson HA. Author information
Department of Pediatrics, National Jewish Medical and Research Center, Denver, CO, USA.
Abstract
Fatal anaphylactic reactions to foods are continuing to occur, and better characterization might lead to better prevention. The objective of this report is to document the ongoing deaths and characterize these fatalities. We analyzed 32 fatal cases reported to a national registry, which was established by the American Academy of Allergy, Asthma, and Immunology, with the assistance of the Food Allergy and Anaphylaxis Network, and for which adequate data could be collected. Data were collected from multiple sources including a structured questionnaire, which was used to determine the cause of death and associated factors. The 32 individuals could be divided into 2 groups. Group 1 had sufficient data to identify peanut as the responsible food in 14 (67%) and tree nuts in 7 (33%) of cases. In group 2 subjects, 6 (55%) of the fatalities were probably due to peanut, 3 (27%) to tree nuts, and the other 2 cases were probably due to milk and fish (1 [9%] each). The sexes were equally affected; most victims were adolescents or young adults, and all but 1 subject were known to have food allergy before the fatal event. In those subjects for whom data were available, all but 1 was known to have asthma, and most of these individuals did not have epinephrine available at the time of their fatal reaction. Fatalities due to ingestion of allergenic foods in susceptible individuals remain a major health problem. In this series, peanuts and tree nuts accounted for more than 90% of the fatalities. Improved education of the profession, allergic individuals, and the public will be necessary to stop these tragedies
Anaphylaxis is a rapid-onset, potentially life-threatening systemic allergic reaction that can affect people of any age or sex. Current guidelines endorse aggressive therapy reflecting the possibility that any episode of anaphylaxis has the potential to cause death. However, the actual risk of death is unclear.
In a recent article published in The Journal of Allergy & Clinical Immunology (JACI), Ma et al. examined the fatality rate among hospitalization or emergency department (ED) presentations for anaphylaxis and the mortality rate associated with anaphylaxis for the general population. This was a population-based epidemiologic study using 3 national databases: Nationwide Inpatient Sample (NIS, 1999-2009), Nationwide ED Sample (NEDS, 2006-2009), and Multiple Cause of Death Data (MCDD, 1999-2009). Sources for these databases were hospital, ED discharge records and death certificates, respectively.
The authors found that case fatality rates were between 0.25% and 0.33% among hospitalizations or ED presentations with anaphylaxis as the principal diagnosis. These rates represent a total of between 63 and 99 deaths per year in the US, ~77% of which occurred in hospitalized patients. Rate of anaphylaxis hospitalizations rose from 21.0 to 25.1 per million population between 1999 and 2009. However, overall mortality rates appeared stable in the last decade and ranged from 0.63 to 0.76 per million population (186 to 225 deaths per year).
These results suggest that the overwhelming majority of hospitalizations or ED presentations for anaphylaxis did not result in death, with an average case fatality rate of 0.3%. Nationwide, despite the increase of anaphylaxis incidence, it is also reassuring that mortality rates associated with anaphylaxis have remained stable in the last decade and were well under 1 per million person-years. Both these observations likely reflect the quality of care that can be provided in the urgent care setting. Although anaphylactic reactions are potentially life threatening, the probability of dying is very low, especially for those cases that involve ED or hospital attention.
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or women and thermostats at work, at least that's my experience.
Not any women involved. Just one crotchety old guy who thinks that a dozen people in the office should use space heaters by their desks, just so he doesn't feel too warm.
The city. The road leading into my house is now almost completely impassable with 1 foot deep icey ruts. I could get in earlier fine by just coming at it with a little speed, but someone just got stuck out there and it's a total disaster area now. Luckily a neighbour was able to tow him out but if not for that, the car wasn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Good work City of Calgary at completely failing at snow removal yet again.
People who bitch about the conditions of the roads in their residential neighbourhood when half the problem is said neighbours who drive down the exact same set of ruts everytime it snows creating said foot deep ruts in the first place.
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There isn't one set of ruts, the entire road is just a slushy (during the day) or frozen (during the night) mess. The ruts I'm referring to are the ones he ended up creating simply by ending up stuck and trying to get out.
The road is slush during the day. It doesn't matter where you drive, you are going to create ruts. When it freezes over in the night, you end up with a big problem.
I have every reason to bitch about this. The plowers failed to actually clear the road in the first place and instead just levelled it out which left a good 6 inches of snow on the road. Combine that with above zero temperatures for a week and you end up with an almost impassable road.
Even if it was my neighbours fault, it's not my responsibility to make sure they're driving in a way that keeps the road in good condition. This shouldn't even be an issue at this point. When was the last significant snow fall? Three weeks ago?
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Save On Foods grinds my gears. How can you not look up a shopping rewards account by phone number? Safeway has been able to do it for years.
You're one of those people who is too lazy to flash a card and has to hold up the line at Safeway while the cashier tries to get your phone number right aren't you. Wow. Just use the damn card
There isn't one set of ruts, the entire road is just a slushy (during the day) or frozen (during the night) mess. The ruts I'm referring to are the ones he ended up creating simply by ending up stuck and trying to get out.
The road is slush during the day. It doesn't matter where you drive, you are going to create ruts. When it freezes over in the night, you end up with a big problem.
I have every reason to bitch about this. The plowers failed to actually clear the road in the first place and instead just levelled it out which left a good 6 inches of snow on the road. Combine that with above zero temperatures for a week and you end up with an almost impassable road.
Even if it was my neighbours fault, it's not my responsibility to make sure they're driving in a way that keeps the road in good condition. This shouldn't even be an issue at this point. When was the last significant snow fall? Three weeks ago?
Time to get a proper vehicle for living in Calgary, it's not like it's the first time there is snow on the road. You guys in your honda civics and all season tires are the ones causing the problems.
You're one of those people who is too lazy to flash a card and has to hold up the line at Safeway while the cashier tries to get your phone number right aren't you. Wow. Just use the damn card
No, actually I'm one of those people whose wife does the majority of the shopping so he never bothered to get a second card. But thanks for being a French shower bag.
If I had the card with me at Save On I would have used it.
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