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		|  01-08-2014, 01:43 PM | #41 |  
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					Originally Posted by undercoverbrother  I floored that a healthy young adult can die from the flu, in this country. |  
I think the problem is that they are generally healthy, so then they think that it isn't as serious as it is. If you don't take care of yourself with any illness the chance is always there that the worst can happen.
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		|  01-08-2014, 01:44 PM | #42 |  
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					Originally Posted by Erick Estrada  Are you CP's version of Henny Penny (The Sky is Falling kids story if you aren't familiar)?  I'm not saying H1N1 isn't dangerous but it's the flu.  From that article you posted 3500 Canadians die each year from the flu.  If you don't get the shots any other years why get one this year?  Is there any proof that H1N1 is killing more people than the typical flu?  Do I really have a higher risk of dying this year as opposed to last year? |  
It's not killing any more people, but it's killing a different demographic.  And yes, if you get it, you are  at a higher risk of dying this year as opposed to last year.
		 
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		|  01-08-2014, 01:50 PM | #43 |  
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					Originally Posted by nik-  It's not killing any more people, but it's killing a different demographic. And yes, if you get it, you are at a higher risk of dying this year as opposed to last year. |  
Look I'm not telling you or others not to get it but there's no way I'm going to line up for a flu shot because of a small handful of deaths.  This way I'm not taking a potential shot away from those that feel the flu could be their downfall.
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		|  01-08-2014, 02:27 PM | #44 |  
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					Originally Posted by Erick Estrada  Look I'm not telling you or others not to get it but there's no way I'm going to line up for a flu shot because of a small handful of deaths.  This way I'm not taking a potential shot away from those that feel the flu could be their downfall. |  
Is there a flu shot shortage?
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		|  01-08-2014, 02:31 PM | #45 |  
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					Originally Posted by Erick Estrada  Look I'm not telling you or others not to get it but there's no way I'm going to line up for a flu shot because of a small handful of deaths.  This way I'm not taking a potential shot away from those that feel the flu could be their downfall. |  
Then don't, no one is forcing you.  I'm just saying that your "I'm a healthy adult" argument is wrong in the case of this strain.
		 
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		|  01-08-2014, 02:42 PM | #46 |  
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					Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm  Is there a flu shot shortage? |  
No, just the sudden spike in demand has left distribution scrambling
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		|  01-08-2014, 02:52 PM | #47 |  
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					Originally Posted by Flabbibulin  I'm curious what other factors were at play?  Were they not taking proper care of themselves during the initial phase etc? |  
None. There is a thirty year old in ICU here on a ventilator. No complications, just severe flu symptoms
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		|  01-08-2014, 02:54 PM | #48 |  
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					Originally Posted by Erick Estrada  Look I'm not telling you or others not to get it but there's no way I'm going to line up for a flu shot because of a small handful of deaths.  This way I'm not taking a potential shot away from those that feel the flu could be their downfall. |  
Then please don't take a hospital bed away from someone who really needs it if/when you get sick because you decided that you don't need the shot when every medical professional is telling you to get one.
		 
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		|  01-08-2014, 02:55 PM | #49 |  
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			Its crazy my mom messaged us on the weekend making sure we had all got our shots as she works in the ICU in Rocky View and said all they have been seeing is flu cases and she has never asked us that before.
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		|  01-08-2014, 02:56 PM | #50 |  
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					Originally Posted by fotze  They said 10 people have died in Alberta including YOUNG HEALTHY ADULTS.  Do they say if any of these folks had the shot?  That would be interesting to know.
 I had it when it first came out and a day or so after I could not get out of be for 24 hours but that went away right quick.  Kinda glad now because I feel invincible, which is clearly in my head.
 
 I went to my doctor with chest pains a while back, she said I once had a patient that had chest pains and it turned out to be nothing so don't worry about that.
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As of last week, not one person hospitalized or dead had recieved the vaccine
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		|  01-08-2014, 03:04 PM | #51 |  
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					Originally Posted by Erick Estrada  Look I'm not telling you or others not to get it but there's no way I'm going to line up for a flu shot because of a small handful of deaths.  This way I'm not taking a potential shot away from those that feel the flu could be their downfall. |  
It's not just your own health that's affected. One of the dangerous parts of the flu is that you're contagious up to two days before symptoms appear. It's the young healthy people who transport it around. 
 
Unfortunately, the fact there are very few of any people with a memory of what the flu can do, people feel secure when there is risk.
 
The flu can do this:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic 
Take away vaccinations and the numbers would be similar today
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		|  01-08-2014, 03:04 PM | #52 |  
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			Wife just got back from the clinic at the South Calgary Health Center (31 Sunpark Plaza) and nurses are waiting for patients to fill out the sheet, she was in and out in 20 minutes, where as yesterday I was there for 2hrs. If you live down this way and want to get your shot, might not be a bad time to get in there.
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		|  01-08-2014, 03:08 PM | #53 |  
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			Sorry to spam this thread  but here's a neat website. May be in here already, but I didn't see it with a quick search. http://www.google.org/flutrends/ca/ 
It only gives a glimpse at flu activity and a quantification. It does not give any insight on severity of illness.
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			Hopefully people standing in long lines will remind people to get their flu shots earlier next year.  I had zero wait time when I did mine months ago.
		 
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		|  01-08-2014, 03:59 PM | #55 |  
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					Originally Posted by photon  Hopefully people standing in long lines will remind people to get their flu shots earlier next year.  I had zero wait time when I did mine months ago. |  
Same here.  I went to get mine just before Christmas and filling out the form took longer than waiting to get the shot.
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		|  01-08-2014, 04:02 PM | #56 |  
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			Does the flu shot I would have received in October or November include H1N1 or are these a separate vaccination?
		 
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		|  01-08-2014, 04:05 PM | #57 |  
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					Originally Posted by BlackArcher101  Does the flu shot I would have received in October or November include H1N1 or are these a separate vaccination? |  
Yes, H1N1 was included in the vaccination this year so if you got the shot in October you're covered. It's still the same vaccination being given out now - the problem is all the people who waited until peak flu season actually arrived instead of getting it ahead of time when it actually protects you for the whole season.
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		|  01-08-2014, 04:05 PM | #58 |  
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					Originally Posted by BlackArcher101  Does the flu shot I would have received in October or November include H1N1 or are these a separate vaccination? |  
It was included.
 
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		|  01-08-2014, 04:09 PM | #59 |  
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			I cringe at standing in line, with my 2 year old, to get his shot. Why won't they let us make appointments for kids!?!
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			A guy I knew growing up (he's now mid-30's) is on a ventilator (respirator?) in the ICU with H1N1. They are not sure yet if he will pull through.
		 
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