You think that's ridiculous? How about the dozens and dozens of convicted criminals who get off with similar sentences.
My point is, there are far, far worse sentences being imposed by judges on CAREER criminals.
You realize your argument is a fallacy, right?
EDIT: I have no problem debating the merits of the Canadian justice system, but that's not really what's at hand here. How many of those criminals get to go back to legally carrying firearms and a position that is directly related to public safety?
ya ya, we all have seen this debate on here like a thousand times.
Anyway she's 17 and never been left alone? I think that should be her main concern... about why she got to this point in life without ever being left alone and she's 17 years old.
Not sure it wouldn't warrant, oh, I dunno, hailing a cab and going home. And colour me confused why in the article posted by Methanolic it says she has been crying constantly ever since the incident? haha... what? That is so weird. So this incident happened and she literally just stood there crying until her dad came back an hour later, and then they went home and she just sat at home crying constantly? That is hilarious more than anything. She's 17 not 3. Just bizarre.
I was a hooligan at 17 pretty sure. And so were probably most of you reading this post. And I certainly didn't sit around and cry all day(s) if bad things happened to me.
Ever been in intense stressful situations where you can think clearly or make proper judgment calls? You're a pretty harsh judge in this example.
@Realtor 1 - Police prefer you stay in your vehicle. You don't have too. It could get towed away for abandoning it and you can get another ticket or it might make just the transaction more difficult because you annoyed a police officer but that story above is a complete over reaction and should result in immediate behavior correction from superiors and disciplinary action. Especially if those were the only charges.
EDIT: I have no problem debating the merits of the Canadian justice system, but that's not really what's at hand here. How many of those criminals get to go back to legally carrying firearms and a position that is directly related to public safety?
Sorry... a fallacy?
However, you are correct, very few get to carry a firearm LEGALLY after being convicted.
Titled “Honest Cops,” the video shows officers Mark Morelli and Chantelle Wilson subdue a woman who is screaming and flailing around. After a struggle that lasts several minutes, they address the crowd gathered around the police cruiser in a polite and professional manner, explaining what had just happened and apologizing for the scene.
“Unfortunately, she decided to try to resist arrest … and while it may look and appear to be something much worse than it is, it is only because she is resisting so violently and flailing around on the ground,” Morelli said. “I’m doing my best not to hurt that girl.”
Even when the man filming the incident questioned the officers about their use of force, Morelli remained calm and even apologetic.
“While it may appear to be very rough to you — and I apologize for you having to see that — but I have the lawful authority to arrest her and I am obligated to arrest her.”
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What an idiot recorder along with the other couple of bystanders. "But she's a girl!" No duh, doesn't mean she can't be arrested. Cry baby on the floor can't comply with the officers but can play with her hair, can't breath but wont shut up. It would have been nice of the recorder to pan around and show himself so he could be shamed instead of what he tried to do to the cops who were perfectly reasonable and professional.
I'll be the first one to stick up for the victim of police brutality, but this video doesn't even come close. She wasn't punched, tazed, kicked, pepper sprayed, or shot and killed. We've seen cases like that many times before, but not here.
That woman? That was all manufactured drama on her part. It was blatantly obvious. "I can't breath!" Uh, yeah you can, or you wouldn't be screaming bloody blue murder. And I can guarandamntee you, that is EXACTLY how my sister-in-law would be. I've seen her at the height of her drama and I watched her try and play the martyr when the police showed up, who very much saw right through her. She seemed to forget that there were 4 other witnesses there to verify that her version of events was completely out to lunch. She got super dramatic after they called her on her BS, lol. I think she was incredibly lucky not to be arrested when she got so stupid. These cops handled that scene well.
Sgt. Katrina O’Reilly said police chatted up countless people riding or walking with bicycles in the downtown and Beltline areas as part of the blitz and, based on “the police officer’s discretion,” asked some of them to prove they owned the bikes.
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Some bikes were returned a day or two after being seized, after the owners came to police with sufficient proof the bicycles belonged to them, she added. In other cases, police made arrests or kept bikes without filing charges.
“If they weren’t able to identify themselves as the owner quite immediately, we’d give them an opportunity to present ownership later and come pick up their bike,” she said.
They literally went up to people on bikes based on their appearance and took their bikes if they couldn't prove ownership? Who carries around bike receipts? It's great that they made a serious effort with regards to bicycle theft after the spike caused by the flood and they did recover some stolen bikes. But what happened to innocent until proven guilty? The mere fact that they seized multiple bikes from their actual owners and forced them to come down to claim them is nothing less than a joke.
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They literally went up to people on bikes based on their appearance and took their bikes if they couldn't prove ownership? Who carries around bike receipts? It's great that they made a serious effort with regards to bicycle theft after the spike caused by the flood and they did recover some stolen bikes. But what happened to innocent until proven guilty? The mere fact that they seized multiple bikes from their actual owners and forced them to come down to claim them is nothing less than a joke.
At first glance, that seems terrible. Pretty ashamed they'd do that in our city.
Titled “Honest Cops,” the video shows officers Mark Morelli and Chantelle Wilson subdue a woman who is screaming and flailing around. After a struggle that lasts several minutes, they address the crowd gathered around the police cruiser in a polite and professional manner, explaining what had just happened and apologizing for the scene.
“Unfortunately, she decided to try to resist arrest … and while it may look and appear to be something much worse than it is, it is only because she is resisting so violently and flailing around on the ground,” Morelli said. “I’m doing my best not to hurt that girl.”
Even when the man filming the incident questioned the officers about their use of force, Morelli remained calm and even apologetic.
“While it may appear to be very rough to you — and I apologize for you having to see that — but I have the lawful authority to arrest her and I am obligated to arrest her.”
This is one of those times where I wish there was actually police brutality.
A protest agains't the police department in Durham, North Carolina turns violent.
And who could blame them as this story is just unreal!
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A vigil for a teen who died in police custody turned violent in Durham, North Carolina, with riot police using tear gas and batons to disperse the crowd.
At least six people were arrested at the Thursday night march to protest the death of 17-year-old Jesus Huerta, according to police.
"I could not be more proud of the restraint and professionalism demonstrated by our officers," Durham Police Chief Jose Lopez said in a statement to the media, adding that injuries to those marching were minimized because of his officers' actions.
"There was a march. The peaceful intent did not exist. We used the best practices in law enforcement," he said at a news conference Friday.
The chief said at the news conference that gunshot residue tests were conducted on Huerta and the arresting officer, and the North Carolina State Bureau of Investigation "found that Huerta was wearing gloves and that his gloves had a saturation of gunshot residue on it. Officer Duncan's revealed that he had no gunshot residue on his hands," Lopez said.
Somehow the police are expecting the people of Durham to believe a kid handcuffed (with gloves on ) in the back of a cruiser shot himself to death with a shotgun that wasn't the cops.
I wonder if one could find DNA(skin fragments?) on the inside of a glove because lets face it, Duncan or his partner likely had them on when the murdered this kid.
Tragedy, another child is dead because of police aggression. Keith Vidal, who had just celebrated his 18th birthday last month, was killed by a police officer who responded to the family’s Boiling Spring Lakes home Sunday afternoon.
Police responded to his house after Vidal, who according to parents, is schizophrenic, picked up a screw driver and refused to put it down.
Mark Wilsey Sr., Kieth’s father, told reporters, two responding officers were able to calm Vidal before another officer walked into the family’s home.
It was when the third officer walked in that the 90-pound teen was stunned with a Tazer and fell to the floor.
According to Antohony Owens, a family friend, Vidal Collapsed backwards on to the floor the two officers jumped on top of the 5ft 3 100 lb Vidal to restrain him.
As Vidal’s Father tried to step in and grab the screw driver the Southport Police Officer that had instructed the other officers to use their tasers, moved between the father and the pile of people on the floor and said “We don’t have time for this” and shot Vidal Once in the chest as the other two Officers held him on the floor.
The RCMP, especially, seems to have far lower standards for their entrance recruits than the city police forces. My cousin, who is basically a dead-beat, angry, and lowskilled was rejected out of hand by CPS but made it first-round into the RCMP. Last Christmas, he regaled us all with tasing stories.
Sounds like the Palm Beach County (Florida) Sheriff's Department. They are frequently listed as the most corrupt, incompetent law enforcement organization in the US.
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That website looks kind of sketchy.
Try this one
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(CNN) -- A man calls 911 saying his family needs help. His wife is scared of their schizophrenic son, armed with a screwdriver. One, then two, then three law enforcement officers -- all from different agencies -- arrive. After the situation calms somewhat, according to the family, a tussle ensues.
What happens next?
In a case this week out of Boiling Spring Lakes, North Carolina, one officer responded by firing his gun, killing 18-year-old Keith Vidal, who was mentally ill.
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Yet some criminal experts say it may not be that simple. Law enforcement officers thrust into situations like this do have protocols to follow. They often do have nonlethal tools like Tasers at their disposal. But things don't always go to plan; in fact, things oftentimes go wrong, forcing an officer to make extremely difficult, split-second decisions whether to use lethal force or not.
"They have to make a judgment very quickly: Is (the individual) a danger to themselves or a danger to others?" said Ron Martinelli, a justice and forensic consultant who trains police officers on what to do in such situations.
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Experts say the final judgments likely will hinge on whether Vassey acted in an "objectively reasonable" matter. That term comes from a 1989 Supreme Court ruling, Graham v. Connor, and means that an officer -- and ultimately, higher authorities -- must decide on the spot whether there is a valid presumption of an imminent, serious risk that would warrant the use of force.
"It's objectively reasonable as seen by the officer," said Martinelli, a former officer who adds there's no federal legal requirement that officers use "the least intrusive level of force" nor do they "have to put themselves at risk." "And it often all depends on a rapidly evolving situation."
"A more accurate headline would be "Non Compliant Fat ####### Gets Just Due In Resisting Law Enforcement Officers""
"I guess it's the best thing for his tribe. He probably never worked a legit job. They city will pay off the family and they will be in Nigggaaa heaven for the rest of their lives!!"
"ERIC GARNER? Yeah! Sure you are! A Nordic/Germanic given name and Anglo-Saxon surname! How dare you steal our names!
You are hereby posthumously renamed MOBUTU TAKANUKU!"
"Youse always bovering me. I didnt do nuffin'"
"The cops will now get blamed for this porkadelic piece of shytte's death; nobody has the ballz to show that the skell killed himself due to a lifetime of gorging his pie hole with fried chicken and french fries. Another example of an azzhole who decides to fight the police, rather than just accept a DAT.
The local Kentucky Fried Chicken has its flag at half staff."
That's just from page 1.
I know that there is the veil of anonymity which allows these clowns to act/talk tougher then they would in reality (hopefully, anyway), and I'm sure it would be easy to get desensitized as a police officer. With LEO's going to work every day with these sort of attitudes, it's easy to see why there is a mistrust of LEO's in certain communities.
On a larger scale, the continued militarization of local police forces leads to less and less personal interaction with the communities they serve. It gets easier to dehumanize the individual. It's one of the worst results of the War on Drugs/post 9-11 U.S.
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And I can guarandamntee you, that is EXACTLY how my sister-in-law would be. I've seen her at the height of her drama and I watched her try and play the martyr when the police showed up, who very much saw right through her. She seemed to forget that there were 4 other witnesses there to verify that her version of events was completely out to lunch. She got super dramatic after they called her on her BS, lol. I think she was incredibly lucky not to be arrested when she got so stupid. These cops handled that scene well.
) in the back of a cruiser shot himself to death with a shotgun that wasn't the cops.
