More police brutality

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by First Lady

I abhor violence and certainly am not condoning his actions. I do believe though we need to look at the larger picture of what police officers face in a given situation.

FL is right. It's easy to sit back, look at a video that provides no context and throw darts at the police.

Do they make mistakes? Yes? Are there ####### cops? Sure?

But walk a mile in their shoes before painting them all with the same broad brush.

[Yakbutter]

Originally Posted by Nsd1

I would take your 2 cents with a grain of salt as you are trying to become a police officer and you need to drink the "police are above the law" kool aid.

Not trying to become a police officer. huh?

And the police are not above the law. I have never said that. The Canadian criminal code and other legislative acts outline what the powers of a peace officer are. Perhaps some of you people should learn what a police officers powers are instead of crying police brutality everytime you see them having to use force to arrest someone.

You know, like, actually have a basis for an opinion instead of talking out of your ass.

One more time for the slow people in this thread, WHEN a police officer is giving you an order, ("get down" "put hands behind your back") And a person doesn't comply, they are allowed to use force to arrest someone. It is not a negotiation, you don't get to argue with them, do what they say or expect them to use some force against you, it's not a court of law. They have power under the law to perform their jobs, no matter how much you people don't like it doesn't make it not true.

Yes it appeared he was excessive, and was reprimanded for it. Again please do some research into what the powers of a peace officer are.

[Yakbutter]

Originally Posted by Yasa

I would say regardless of what either person did in this situation, neither deserved to be kicked in the ribs by the police. The second guy was complying, so there was no need for the excessive take down.

It looked like he was at first, but when the officers tried to cuff him he started resisting.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

FL is right. It's easy to sit back, look at a video that provides no context and throw darts at the police.

Do they make mistakes? Yes? Are there ####### cops? Sure?

But walk a mile in their shoes before painting them all with the same broad brush.

Who the hell is painting them all with the same brush?

Jesus, I've defended cops a lot and in this thread too but lets not let cop love blind us. Of course 99% of cops are good but that doesn't mean we can't call one out when an incident like this happens.

[8 Ball]

Originally Posted by Yakbutter

It looked like he was at first, but when the officers tried to cuff him he started resisting.

It looked like he was resisting a beating. Fairly natural instinct.

[Canuck-Hater]

I knew someone here would find a way to justify it... Ugh just boggles my mind.

[flamesfever]

They need to weed out guys like the one in the video as soon as possible...not just reprimand or suspend them. Guys like that ruin it for the vast majority of decent officers. I recall being told, as a kid, that there were many men in the Military Police in WWII with sadistic tendencies.

[To Be Quite Honest]

This is going around on FB.

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/20...phing-cop-car/

[Methanolic]

^ Absolutely Brutal...a 17 year old girl just left to fend for herself?

Boder is most upset about the fact that police took off with him, leaving his daughter stranded on the street in the dark. She even tried to call 9-1-1 to find out where her father was taken, but says they hung up on her twice.


Police eventually brought him back to the scene to meet up with his daughter close to an hour later. The carpenter was forced to take a few days off work, after suffering minor injuries to his hands. He feels humiliated about the incident and says his daughter has been crying constantly ever since.

[Vulcan]

Some cops aren't the smartest and have resentment problems.

[rubecube]

Also, this:

http://www.cowichanvalleycitizen.com...oting-1.724896

Convicted of aggravated assault in the 2009 shooting of an unarmed man during a traffic stop, the former North Cowichan/ Duncan RCMP officer was sentenced Thursday morning at the Duncan courthouse — more than four years after the incident took place.

Pompeo received a suspended sentence of two years probation and 240 hours of community service. He will also get to keep his firearm.

Just absolutely ridiculous.

[Travis Munroe]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

This is going around on FB.

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/20...phing-cop-car/

In all fairness, without knowing the whole story, the only issue is leaving a minor without calling for someone else. Granted a 17 year old can look 25 however they should have spoke with her before taking off.
As for the hands - he missed a couple days of work screams I need to make my point. Your hands and wrists arent going to feel great when being arrested.

Any word as to why he was actually arrested? I am having a tough time buying into the parked in a wrong spot. Perhaps he parked in a wrong spot, cops showed up, ran the plate and he had a warrant of which the daughter was unaware of. That seems more realistic.

EDIT: after reading the story 2 things stand out

1)

2) If your illegally parked and get a ticket, take your medicine and move on. Stepping out into traffic with the "look at me, im photographing you" attitude is the wrong approach. That said, the officers should have just wrote another ticket for obstructing traffic and moved on. Arresting a guy is a waste of everyones time and I believe he deserves compensation. More of a big mess up by the cops than brutality.

[Mr.Coffee]

ya ya, we all have seen this debate on here like a thousand times.

Anyway she's 17 and never been left alone? I think that should be her main concern... about why she got to this point in life without ever being left alone and she's 17 years old.

Not sure it wouldn't warrant, oh, I dunno, hailing a cab and going home. And colour me confused why in the article posted by Methanolic it says she has been crying constantly ever since the incident? haha... what? That is so weird. So this incident happened and she literally just stood there crying until her dad came back an hour later, and then they went home and she just sat at home crying constantly? That is hilarious more than anything. She's 17 not 3. Just bizarre.

I was a hooligan at 17 pretty sure. And so were probably most of you reading this post. And I certainly didn't sit around and cry all day(s) if bad things happened to me.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Also, this:

http://www.cowichanvalleycitizen.com...oting-1.724896



Just absolutely ridiculous.

In his 83-page decision, Judge Josiah Wood said that while satisfied Pompeo believed it was necessary to shoot Gillespie, the officer’s belief was not based on reasonable grounds, but instead on fear-induced stress.
Sentencing had been slated for June, but delays pushed it to the end of October. Sentencing wrapped up on Dec. 5.

"the officers belief was not based on reasonable grounds, but instead on fear-induced stress" and this man gets to keep his gun and resume his police career. Whoa!

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

ya ya, we all have seen this debate on here like a thousand times.

Anyway she's 17 and never been left alone? I think that should be her main concern... about why she got to this point in life without ever being left alone and she's 17 years old.

Not sure it wouldn't warrant, oh, I dunno, hailing a cab and going home. And colour me confused why in the article posted by Methanolic it says she has been crying constantly ever since the incident? haha... what? That is so weird. So this incident happened and she literally just stood there crying until her dad came back an hour later, and then they went home and she just sat at home crying constantly? That is hilarious more than anything. She's 17 not 3. Just bizarre.

I was a hooligan at 17 pretty sure. And so were probably most of you reading this post. And I certainly didn't sit around and cry all day(s) if bad things happened to me.

Are you a girl?

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Are you a girl?

Does it say Mrs.Coffee?

What's your point?

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Does it say Mrs.Coffee?

What's your point?

Well than there's a major difference between you at 17 and that girl.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Well than there's a major difference between you at 17 and that girl.

I was probably as strong as she is at 17 haha. Anyway she probably put herself in more danger by standing around the street crying than simply hailing the next available cab.

As for the crying for days at home, again it's just odd.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I was probably as strong as she is at 17 haha. Anyway she probably put herself in more danger by standing around the street crying than simply hailing the next available cab.

As for the crying for days at home, again it's just odd.

Maybe she didn't have money for a cab?

Originally Posted by rubecube

Also, this:

http://www.cowichanvalleycitizen.com...oting-1.724896



Just absolutely ridiculous.

You think that's ridiculous? How about the dozens and dozens of convicted criminals who get off with similar sentences.

My point is, there are far, far worse sentences being imposed by judges on CAREER criminals.