I like/d Feaster & Weisbrod thread

[djsFlames]

Leafs are falling apart again, if anybody hasn't noticed.

Almost fallen back to .500 after being what.. 10+ games over?

[Buff]

I liked Feaster. I wasn't sold on the Iginla and Bouwmeester trades. Bouwmeester's return isn't quite so horrible, but you still hope for more. Iginla's return? Not so good. Then you consider the O'Reilly fiasco along side of how Iginla's trade was handled. The rest of his trades, they weren't horrendous, but they did leave me wishing he could have done better. While I could, and did, argue that the Tanguay & Sarich deal was good to just get rid of two guys who wanted out, yes, he could have had a better trade there. The Regehr trade... ugh, I so wanted to defend it because my team made that trade. I'm not holding back anymore, it was horrible.

All-in-all Feaster was barely adequate. He had bad moves, like all GMs will have, and he had good moves. His good moves could have been better, but his bad moves sometimes really made him, and the team, look bad/dumb. It was a matter of time before he did something stupid like trading Baertschi for Ruslan Zainullen Jr. So good to get rid of him before he made another mistake.

I fell for the hype of Weisbrod, but realized during the summer, that what makes him so special? If he was so good, why didn't he become the GM, or get a GM job elsewhere? Still surprised to see him go, but it doesn't affect me much.

Yeah, I liked Feaster, but I'm glad he is gone.

[Northendzone]

i think it will take a couple of more season util we can give Feater a closing grade......thanks Jay and good luck.....Jon we hardly knew ya!!!

[zamler]

How can anyone say Feaster was a good GM. He took 1 step forward, 2 steps back, 3 steps sideways....

Feaster was just going in circles at best until he went from "not going to be a GM for a rebuild" to a GM that was dithering around doing a rebuild. Nice guy but good riddance.

[bubbsy]

meh, feaster wasn't a good GM. He was downright terrible in many regards uptil late last season when the team conceded that a rebuild was in order. I thought that since then, he's been relatively palatable.

His draft history seems very good, witht he only question mark being the Jankowski pick, though we all will have to be patient in seeing how that pans out.

I think i would have been fine with him as the rebuilding GM, but definitely have someone like a burke/new guy for building out a team wiht the pieces established thru the rebuild stage.

this move is fine, as long as we don't rush the rebuild and move into the next stage too soon.

[Gord Wappel]

I think Feaster had a great draft. Burke said so too.

I hope the plan is to continue acquiring high draft picks and prospects.

This isn't about Feaster.
Its all about Burke. Insatiable ego.
He's already raising expectations with the "no patience talk" .. gets headlines and leads to Kessel type non-rebuild moves.
I thought most of Calgary had bought into a proper rebuild.
I guess thats on hold.
In three years we can be as good as the leafs

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

I enjoyed this comment from Oilfans. Sounds about right:

It seems a little Oilers-esque to hire a guy's replacement while he still works there, and then after a couple of months where things have gone exactly as expected, drop the axe.

[Phanuthier]

^ We've done that each time since Button though..... Feaster to Darryl, Darryl to Craig Button......

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Teh_Bandwagoner

I enjoyed this comment from Oilfans. Sounds about right:
Quote:
It seems a little Oilers-esque to hire a guy's replacement while he still works there, and then after a couple of months where things have gone exactly as expected, drop the axe.

Except Burke isn't Feaster's replacement

[Miniac]

They did a great job in the last few drafts acquiring those high draft picks and prospects.But that's about it for me.

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by Gunkle

Redvan, go do a drive-by on someone else's thread.

The deal with Feaster, is that he supposedly wasn't supposed to be in the 'win now' mode. I think we can agree that the team we have now is competitive and entertaining - injuries not withstanding.
We were to restock the cupboard, and not piddle away the future. So my question is, how did Feaster so egregiously stray from that?
His upside includes: Gillies, Gaudreau, Jankowski (to name a few)
Down side: Staios and PL3?

Jarome wasn't moved until last year due to his NTC/NMC and the ownership's fear of a city revolt.
He has been saddled with Sutter's depleted ranks, and ownership's meddling - I thought he did well.

not a single "upside" has played a shift in the NHL or even close too.

downside? to quote american gangster "that line goes out the door and around the block"


dont get fooled by Feaster's "likeable" personality

[dino7c]

there are 30 NHL GM jobs in the entire world...if you think Jay Feaster is one of the top 30 guys on earth to run a hockey team I have my doubts that you have any idea what your talking about

[CalgaryFan1988]

I'm just hoping to be on the winning end of a trade for once, without having to wait 5 years, to just know we won right away. I miss Regehr.

[SeanCharles]

I'll decide how I feel about this when a direction is taken.

But thank you Feaster/Weisbrod for spearheading the group that drafted players like:

- Baertschi - Poirier
- Gaudreau - Klimchuk
- Gillies - Granlund
- Monahan - Wotherspoon
- Sieloff

Fortunately the scouting staff who deserve most of the credit for these picks are still around. Weisbrod had a big hand in the 2012 draft so Gillies and Sieloff are largely to his credit.

I liked how Feaster ran a democracy where everyone got a say; it helped build the prospect pool. I hope this type of atmosphere isn't lost under Burke..

Feaster also got valuable players while spending minimal assets in:

- Hudler - Stempniak
- Wideman - Knight
- Russell - Smid
- Galiardi - Cammalleri
- Colborne - Billins

Feaster cleaned up Sutter's mess and now he's set up a clean slate for someone to step into a GM position in a Canadian market where owners will spend to the cap. Even more gravy is we have a ton of cap space available and a lot of teams don't have much so we are in a position of strength. Plus we have a good prospect base to work with. Not to mention the likely top-5 pick this year..

Who ever takes over is going to reap the rewards of Feasters labours. But part of me understands this may be a good thing so long as the key pieces Feaster brought here aren't moved since the new guy won't have any allegiances to any of them...

Excited and nervous at the same time!

[renny]

I think the Ryan O'Reilly fiasco was a bit unforgivable BUT I think some that say that Feaster made zero good moves is a bit extreme. I would point you to the Tim Erixon trade, he got Wotherspoon, Granlund and Horak out of that guy. To me that was pretty good value for a guy that had no intention of signing with the Flames.

I'm not a fan of all the moves he makes, but I wish Feaster all the best.

[SHOGUN]

I'll judge Feaster/Weisbrod's drafting record in the next 3-4 years... just cause our some prospects are doing well now in junior/college/AHL doesn't mean it will translate into the NHL.

[FlameZilla]

Thanks Feaster and Weisbrod for restocking the prospect cupboards. Sutter left this franchise with very few young assets. We are now overloaded with exciting young talent to look forward to watching. I enjoyed their drafting philosophy. I hope Burke doesn't give up on Baertschi & Jankowski too soon, as I think they could yet turn out.

Trades were a mixed bag. Some minor deals were fairly successful. Feaster had a knack for acquiring decent players when their value was very reasonable. He handled the Erixon scenario well & got great assets back. Recently the Colborne, Russell, Knight & Smid deals look like we've got the better end of the deal. Bigger deals were fairly disappointing. The Regehr return was disappointing. Iginla & Bouwmeester deals didn't fetch the ideal return in my opinion.

I think these two have laid a good foundation for a rebuild. Now it's in Burke's hands (and whichever cronie he appoints as 'GM'). I hope they carry on with the emphasis on good drafting but are much, much more successful with trades.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by SHOGUN

I'll judge Feaster/Weisbrod's drafting record in the next 3-4 years... just cause our some prospects are doing well now in junior/college/AHL doesn't mean it will translate into the NHL.

Drafting is only successful when the players drafted graduate to NHLers and to date only Monahan and Baertschi have played on the big club and Sven still needs a lot of work. IMO the verdict is still out on the drafting record although they certainly did improve on Darryl Sutter's record but that in itself isn't a major feat.