Despite attempts to revise history, this was never a case of the Flames saying "we've got a deal with Boston" and Iginla saying "I changed my mind". This was always a case of the Flames saying "we've got deals with Boston and Pittsburgh, lets choose which is best for both of us."
The Flames could have simply refused the Penguins offers and told Iginla "we have a deal with Boston". The team, to its credit, gave a guy who was a warrior for the team for 16 years - and very well could have saved the franchise - the chance to have a greater say in the result of the trade.
Slight correction:
The way NTC/NMCs work is as a legal framework preventing a trade. To get around that legal framework, a signature on a document detailing the conditions for waiving that clause is necessary.
The protocol, generally, is a player is approached by the GM about a trade, and the player submits a list of teams he would be willing to go to. The GM analyzes the list, asks the agent to submit the waiver in writing, player signs it and submits it to the team. The team then negotiates a trade with the understanding they have a legal framework within which to work and explores trade scenarios with the necessary power to act under the right circumstances.
By not getting a signature on a document by Iginla waiving his trade restrictions based on conditions met, Flames management hooped themselves from the start, allowing the player full control on destination, timing, and as a result of those two factors, some control of the trade return. I'm almost positive that protocol was followed with Bouwmeester, maybe as a result of management learning their lesson from what amounted to a fiasco from their end.
Talks about how the trade to Pitt went down, his summer back here after the flood helping out and not know where he was going, how he approached Boston. Pokes fun at Rhett a couple times
Lots of what we read in the Calgary Herald artical. It was nice to just hear him laugh
You can clearly tell from that interview that Rhett and Iggy hated each other.
Can't believe some posters thought that.
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I'm looking forward to seeing this game and the crowd reaction to when Iggy is mentioned. I really hope they give him a big standing O. I think I'll PVR the game just to have a copy of it.
He did trip over the jersey and whiff on the empty net chance so best game ever might be an overstatement.
Negative. He missed a backhand at the empty net from just inside the blueline, pressured by Ohlund, and then he tripped over his stick that was slashed out of his hands by Morrison, as he was skating backwards.
Brian Burke's quote at the time (can't find it now in a quick search) was that was the greatest game he had ever seen any player play, and that it cost him his job.
Negative. He missed a backhand at the empty net from just inside the blueline, pressured by Ohlund, and then he tripped over his stick that was slashed out of his hands by Morrison, as he was skating backwards.
Brian Burke's quote at the time (can't find it now in a quick search) was that was the greatest game he had ever seen any player play, and that it cost him his job.
Crawford also called it the best game he'd ever seen from a player.
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By not getting a signature on a document by Iginla waiving his trade restrictions based on conditions met, Flames management hooped themselves from the start, allowing the player full control on destination, timing, and as a result of those two factors, some control of the trade return. I'm almost positive that protocol was followed with Bouwmeester, maybe as a result of management learning their lesson from what amounted to a fiasco from their end.
Like I said, Feaster could have simply gone back to Iginla and said that they could reach an agreement only with Boston. We both know that Iginla would have gone in that case.
All of this bitching really comes down to the fact that a few people are upset that the team chose not to behave the same mercenary fashion they do. Flames management wanted to do right by Iginla.
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Sure Jamie Macoun was a decent player and his departure was part of the very worst trade in Flames history but not sure he deserves to have his number retired!
Crawford also called it the best game he'd ever seen from a player.
Goal one, I remember yelling at the TV to whoever it was (that had just dipped out of the camera shot to the right) to skate even harder, and Conroy saw him last minute, and great pass.
Plus, the ultra rare (don't know if I've seen it from him since) arm pump celebration after that goal.
Goal 2, watching live you can't see excatly what happened, thought maybe it was a tip or a jam in...but no, pure skill to pick up the semi-shot, while skating in traffic in front of the net, and in one motion, pulling it around Auld and in, while getting hammered by Ohulnd.
Edit: Lets forget about the sweater and stick incident.
Edit 2:Can't forget the OT winner either, where he pulls his now patented backward spin out of the corner to bring the puck to the middle of the ice to create the space for the shot and rebound to Gelinas.
Just a beast that game.
The game where Iginla became "The Man", taking that game and series by the balls to give the Flames their first playoff series.
From our own AC:
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Goal one, I remember yelling at the TV to whoever it was (that had just dipped out of the camera shot to the right) to skate even harder, and Conroy saw him last minute, and great pass.
Plus, the ultra rare (don't know if I've seen it from him since) arm pump celebration after that goal.
Goal 2, watching live you can't see excatly what happened, thought maybe it was a tip or a jam in...but no, pure skill to pick up the semi-shot, while skating in traffic in front of the net, and in one motion, pulling it around Auld and in, while getting hammered by Ohulnd.
Edit: Lets forget about the sweater and stick incident.
Edit 2:Can't forget the OT winner either, where he pulls his now patented backward spin out of the corner to bring the puck to the middle of the ice to create the space for the shot and rebound to Gelinas.
Just a beast that game.
The game where Iginla became "The Man", taking that game and series by the balls to give the Flames their first playoff series.
From our own AC:
Goosebumps.
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Absolutely. I was there, and was so confused why it was so silent after Iginla's first goal, thinking it was offside and I missed it, then remembered I was in Van. Row 6, right behind the net for our first and third goals, and of course their tying goal...
I was interviewed by CTV Vancouver pre-game for my prediction as I was in a Flames' sweater:
"3-1 Flames. Iggy with the hat trick into an empty net".
Was pretty close!
One day...
The way NTC/NMCs work is as a legal framework preventing a trade. To get around that legal framework, a signature on a document detailing the conditions for waiving that clause is necessary.
The protocol, generally, is a player is approached by the GM about a trade, and the player submits a list of teams he would be willing to go to. The GM analyzes the list, asks the agent to submit the waiver in writing, player signs it and submits it to the team. The team then negotiates a trade with the understanding they have a legal framework within which to work and explores trade scenarios with the necessary power to act under the right circumstances.
By not getting a signature on a document by Iginla waiving his trade restrictions based on conditions met, Flames management hooped themselves from the start, allowing the player full control on destination, timing, and as a result of those two factors, some control of the trade return. I'm almost positive that protocol was followed with Bouwmeester, maybe as a result of management learning their lesson from what amounted to a fiasco from their end.
Resolute's flowery narrative almost brought a tear to my eye about how professional the organization handled the Iginla situation.
However, it fails to address the Chiarelli conundrum, which confirms that he was under the impression that the Iginla to Boston deal was finalized, and of course the signing of Bartkowski to an extension.
Just another feather in the cap for this Management team.
Resolute's flowery narrative almost brought a tear to my eye about how professional the organization handled the Iginla situation.
However, it fails to address the Chiarelli conundrum, which confirms that he was under the impression that the Iginla to Boston deal was finalized, and of course the signing of Bartkowski to an extension.
Just another feather in the cap for this Management team.
As the story goes, Iginla had the Boston option and Pitt. option, and he asked if the return for the Flames was fairly comparable. He was told (by King?) that it was, so he chose Pittsburgh. And IMO and from what I've heard, that's all on Feaster for blabbing to Charelli either that Boston's offer was *his* preference, or, that Iginla was open to going to the Bruins, or, that Iginla agreed to the Bruins.
Whatever it was, Charelli got the wrong idea, and Feaster botched that communication up big time and lead another GM (with all the other GM's/agents watching with a major trade) down the wrong path...further diminishing Feaster's credibility and thus the Flames credibility.
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I think everyone's account of how things went down and who is to blame is largely based on their existing feelings about the parties involved.
None of us actually know how it played out.
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Like many cp members, and other flames fans, i've met and spoken with Iggy. He's a quality person and he gave his heart and soul to the flames for years. I really do hope he gets a long and loud standing ovation from the crowd at the dome, he really does deserve it. just my $0.02.
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As the story goes, Iginla had the Boston option and Pitt. option, and he asked if the return for the Flames was fairly comparable. He was told (by King?) that it was, so he chose Pittsburgh. And IMO and from what I've heard, that's all on Feaster for blabbing to Charelli either that Boston's offer was *his* preference, or, that Iginla was open to going to the Bruins, or, that Iginla agreed to the Bruins.
Whatever it was, Charelli got the wrong idea, and Feaster botched that communication up big time and lead another GM (with all the other GM's/agents watching with a major trade) down the wrong path...further diminishing Feaster's credibility and thus the Flames credibility.
When you make a request to an organization to sign a player and give the impression to another NHL GM that the deal is completed... I would hope that you have some basis in reality to make those statements.
Even though I don't have a lot of respect for Feaster or his abilities, you have to be dumber than a sack of potatoes to tell another GM the deal is done and have him make moves that affect his franchise (scratching Koko from the lineup that night, signing Bartkowski) without something to back that up.
I find it difficult to believe even someone like Feaster could put himself in that position.
