Pot smoking mountie hands in dress uniform

[Rerun]

Not sure if this story has been posted yet... I did a search and couldn't find anything... but then again maybe its in the stop smoking thread...

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/11...tsd-diagnosis/

Fredericton-area RCMP Corporal Ron Francis became an instant national celebrity on Thursday when he appeared on CBC dressed in his formal red serge, sparking a spliff. He has a licence to smoke medical marijuana, but the force, and Justice Minister Peter MacKay, disapprove (see story at top right). Cpl. Francis, who has been a member of the RCMP since 1993, spoke Thursday to the National Post’s Jen Gerson, shortly before a Mountie-ordered medical, and explained his actions:

Q. I think that’s something people don’t understand — and there have been some studies about this very thing — that when you smoke a joint, you’re not getting high. Is that correct?

A. Yeah, I’m not getting high. If I smoke multiple joints, then I’m getting high. But if I smoke one, it does not get me high. What happens is that your body adjusts to the THC level. It would be the same as someone drinking one beer, the level of alcohol in your body is not enough to make you impaired.

[DFO]

So they make a big spectacle of stripping this guy of his dress uniform because it sets such a bad example yet the crack smoking mayor of Toronto doesn't warrant a peep from the CPC?

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Rerun

...Personally, I think I'd be a little nervous having someone with a gun smoking pot at the same time.

Have you ever smoked pot? Do you know any pot smokers?

I'd be more nervous that a pot smoking police officer would put his gun down and hug me.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Have you ever smoked pot? Do you know any pot smokers?

I'd be more nervous that a pot smoking police officer would put his gun down and hug me.

No you see, all drugs have the same effect because reasons.

[undercoverbrother]

The bigger question for me is why is the RCMP not helping him beyond puttin him on a desk. He alleges the RCMP have nothing in place to help with his and other member's condition.

[Locke]

Although....I mean...he was on the job. Most people cant get tuned at work. And, if its on camera a boss has to say something.

[core_upt]

I support his right to smoke medical marijuana, it seems to be working for his PTSD. It is prescribed, legal and he does not drive nor handle a firearm while medicated.
My issue is his blatant disregard for respecting the uniform that he represents and has done so for 21 years.
He is legally entitled to do it, by doing so in the red serge is disrespectful and ignorant. Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD.
He should keep working, keep smoking and keep petitioning for visibility of PTSD issues, but smoking a joint while wearing a respected uniform is not the way to do it.

[HOWITZER]

Well, technically the guy is on administrative duty, so he doesn't get to carry a gun.

And if he has been prescribed to take medical marijuana for PTSD, why are the conservatives bashing? I think this is a pretty low-blow by both the CPC and RCMP. The CPC can't go running around attacking the guy in the RCMP for taking prescribed marijuana due to PTSD while 3 afghan veterans committed suicide over the past week due to PTSD (and lack of help from the government).

And if you're going to attack pot smokers... why not go after crack smokers? Double standard much?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by core_upt

I support his right to smoke medical marijuana, it seems to be working for his PTSD. It is prescribed, legal and he does not drive nor handle a firearm while medicated.
My issue is his blatant disregard for respecting the uniform that he represents and has done so for 21 years.
He is legally entitled to do it, by doing so in the red serge is disrespectful and ignorant. Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD.
He should keep working, keep smoking and keep petitioning for visibility of PTSD issues, but smoking a joint while wearing a respected uniform is not the way to do it.

stupid lack to reading skills

[TurdFerguson]

Thread title of the year? lol

[Locke]

Originally Posted by HOWITZER

Well, technically the guy is on administrative duty, so he doesn't get to carry a gun.

And if he has been prescribed to take medical marijuana for PTSD, why are the conservatives bashing? I think this is a pretty low-blow by both the CPC and RCMP. The CPC can't go running around attacking the guy in the RCMP for taking prescribed marijuana due to PTSD while 3 afghan veterans committed suicide over the past week due to PTSD (and lack of help from the government).

And if you're going to attack pot smokers... why not go after crack smokers? Double standard much?

I dont think its a double standard. Realistically, I dont see it as my responsibility to 'go after' anyone.

The dude was smoking pot 'on the job.' He compared it to drinking beer. Still unacceptable 'on the job.'

As for going after crack smokers....that kind of is his job.

[polak]

Clearly anyone who is on the Pot should not be in a position like this. Junkies are bad people and frankly, they're dangerous. How can we have our children look up to someone in uniform when that someone is a drug addict?

As a tax paying Canadian and a Christian, I support this move.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Was it?

In this particular case, yes, it was a legal prescription.

In any event, I don't have a problem with the RCMP's actions here. I'm 100% behind the officer's right to smoke legally prescribed medical marijuana to help with PTSD, but not while he's on duty, and certainly not while he's wearing his uniform. If he's unable to perform his duties without taking the drug, then he should be placed on paid administrative leave while he receives help. And yes, I realize that we've done an abysmal job of helping those with PTSD thus far, but this case should be a call to action to improve that failing, not to make an exception that allows a Mountie to smoke up while on duty.

[Rerun]

nm

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by polak

Clearly anyone who is on the Pot should not be in a position like this. Junkies are bad people and frankly, they're dangerous. How can we have our children look to someone in uniform when that someone is a drug addict.

Unsure if this is sarcasm...

[habernac]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Here he is smoking a joint in full uniform and being in full uniform, on duty, I can only assume he has his handgun on his person.

again, stupid of him to smoke while in uniform, but do you really think he's dangerous with a firearm while on weed? Wake up, man.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Have you ever smoked pot? Do you know any pot smokers?

Yes and yes.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

In this particular case, yes, it was a legal prescription.

In any event, I don't have a problem with the RCMP's actions here. I'm 100% behind the officer's right to smoke legally prescribed medical marijuana to help with PTSD, but not while he's on duty, and certainly not while he's wearing his uniform. If he's unable to perform his duties without taking the drug, then he should be placed on paid administrative leave while he receives help. And yes, I realize that we've done an abysmal job of helping those with PTSD thus far, but this case should be a call to action to improve that failing, not to make an exception that allows a Mountie to smoke up while on duty.

Pretty much. Do what you gotta do, but when its appropriate.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by habernac

again, stupid of him to smoke while in uniform, but do you really think he's dangerous with a firearm while on weed? Wake up, man.

Question: After smoking a joint, is a person impaired to any extent?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

In this particular case, yes, it was a legal prescription.

In any event, I don't have a problem with the RCMP's actions here. I'm 100% behind the officer's right to smoke legally prescribed medical marijuana to help with PTSD, but not while he's on duty, and certainly not while he's wearing his uniform. If he's unable to perform his duties without taking the drug, then he should be placed on paid administrative leave while he receives help. And yes, I realize that we've done an abysmal job of helping those with PTSD thus far, but this case should be a call to action to improve that failing, not to make an exception that allows a Mountie to smoke up while on duty.

Yeah I saw that I totally, failed in my reading skills.

I agree with the rest of your post.