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View Poll Results: What are you buying?
Xbox One 66 15.46%
PS4 189 44.26%
Changed from Xbox One to PS4 8 1.87%
Changed from PS4 to Xbox One 6 1.41%
Getting both (eventually) 30 7.03%
Waiting for more info 60 14.05%
Not getting either 68 15.93%
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:43 PM   #1301
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He's saying it because you just summed up Xbox's great exclusive games. Halo, Gears of War, Forza. There is no 'etc.' If you aren't into those games (or are sick of them because they've milked them) then the Xbox doesn't really have a lot to offer. Sony offers a broader range, more variety, and all at a very high quality.
Exactly it's not a complete list but here are the titles/franchises that were exclusive for each platform last gen.

XBOX 360:

Halo
Gears
Forza
Fable
Viva Pinata
Dance Central
Mass Effect (First Game)
Dead Rising (First Game)
Kinect Titles

Playstation 3:
God of War
Uncharted
Grand Turismo
Last of Us
Infamous
Resistance
Killzone
Ratchet and Clank
Twisted Metal
Little Big Planet
Sly Cooper
MotorStorm
Demon's Souls
Beyond: Two Souls
Heavy Rain
Metal Gear Solid 4
Puppeteer
Heavenly Sword
MLB: The Show

Just a lot more variety and options on Playstation systems. They may not all be great or even good games but the options are there.

Edit: Found full lists here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_36...sives#Xbox_360

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Old 11-20-2013, 02:45 PM   #1302
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:46 PM   #1303
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Love the PS4 (and also getting a Xbone)

Robaur, you sound like the biggest fanboy ever. Willing to accept Xbox's flaws while trying to point out how bad Sony's machine is...

Maybe they will both be good?
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That's a pretty long list of the games I sold to Cash Converters.
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:47 PM   #1305
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Xbone shipped with tracking number via Bestbuy. FS still no info.
I just checked my XB1 order from BB and it still hasn't shipped. No info on my FS games either. Hope things go as smooth as last week.
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Not necessarily as the Xbox One has 32MB of embedded eSRAM which developers could leverage to increase memory bandwidth for certain tasks.
As the article I linked mentioned, that is part of the problem. IF developers can utilize the eSRAM efficiently, then they could close the gap with the PS4. But that adds a layer of difficulty to development that the PS4 doesn't have, it's like the last generation but reversed

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I'm not a tech expert at all
So then stay out of the hardware arguments. I've listed simple facts that I pulled from linked articles, you're using anecdotes and hypotheticals. Both the PS4 and Xbox One are PC's at heart, they use the same architecture and follow the same development process. And in the world of PC gaming the machine with more horsepower always wins

And as for your iPhone/Android comparison, the reason that the iPhone is a smoother experience is because Apple develops the OS for a single hardware platform, while Android is on thousands of different types of devices. Yet both consoles fall into the Apple camp in this scenario (one OS for one piece of hardware), so your argument has no point
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It's cute that you guys argue about which suboptimal gaming platform is slightly less suboptimal.
Love PC gaming...but console gaming gets the major support now, and now we see the majority of great games on consoles (Usually first) and miss PC.

The PC needs a game changer right now MOBA's and MMOs will always have an audience, but there are few games that make the PC a must have.

Half Life 3...the world needs you
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:48 PM   #1308
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Love the PS4 (and also getting a Xbone)

Robaur, you sound like the biggest fanboy ever. Willing to accept Xbox's flaws while trying to point out how bad Sony's machine is...

Maybe they will both be good?
I completlly agree. This forum has a lot of PS4 fanboys bashing the XB1 though.
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I completlly agree. This forum has a lot of PS4 fanboys bashing the XB1 though.
Don't worry, Sony got beat up pretty bad at the last console launch. They learned from that.
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Love PC gaming...but console gaming gets the major support now, and now we see the majority of great games on consoles (Usually first) and miss PC.

The PC needs a game changer right now MOBA's and MMOs will always have an audience, but there are few games that make the PC a must have.

Half Life 3...the world needs you
Agreed. Hopefully Star Citizen is as amazing as we all hope it will be.

That said, exclusive titles have always been a meh drawing point for me. I'm usually just happy if the game runs as good or better on PC than on the console (or plays better, in terms of FPS games and games that utilize a stick+throttle)...poor optimization has made me regret some purchases mind you...(Dark Souls I'm looking at you).
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Don't worry, Sony got beat up pretty bad at the last console launch. They learned from that.
They were downright arrogant with the PS3 launch.

Their unified messaging this time around contrasts with Microsoft rather ironically right now.
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Old 11-20-2013, 03:02 PM   #1313
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It really is a tough choice right now. I'll be waiting to get into next gen anyways as I still think my PS3 can keep me busy for a while. However, the really interesting thing for this console generation is the difference in philosophy. Xbox One's all in one attack seems like the future -- but as I stated in an earlier post, it needs to work really well. If it can't incorporate everything its trying to successfully, it'll just be a lot of gimmicky stuff that wont matter. Then you have PS which has turned its back on the overall media experience and is focused primarily on games. Could be amazing but I need to see they've actually improved their online experience, where Xbox Live was always a superior product. To me the price difference is negligable, I'll get whichever console has the games I like and the best overall media experience. Fact of the matter is, it isn't only about gaming anymore.
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I completlly agree. This forum has a lot of PS4 fanboys bashing the XB1 though.
I'm no fanboy, I simply go with the better product. I have both a PS3 and Xbox 360, but prefer to buy most of my games on the 360 because it's the better device. But right now the PS4 has the more powerful hardware, the current cross platform games look and perform better on it, and PS+ provides far more value over Xbox Live with their monthly free games and Steam-like sales (plus no need to pay to use things like Netflix). As it stands the PS4 is simply the better product, especially when you factor in price

Microsoft can't compete with Sony in pure gaming performance unless they change the hardware inside the One (which no console manufacturer has ever done with a current gen device), so they need to focus on the software side of things. I want to see them work on the one device mentality and improve the Kinect performance, make it actually worth the extra $100. Then it might be worth buying
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Old 11-20-2013, 03:10 PM   #1315
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I'm now genuinely concerned...I pre-ordered my Xbox One on June 17....Day 1 Edition...

my credit card hasnt been charged...nothing at all..no email...

this is from future shop btw...so now im thinking i might have to pick one up at midnight tomorrow night.
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this is from future shop btw...so now im thinking i might have to pick one up at midnight tomorrow night.
What places are doing midnight releases?
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Microsoft can't compete with Sony in pure gaming performance unless they change the hardware inside the One (which no console manufacturer has ever done with a current gen device), so they need to focus on the software side of things. I want to see them work on the one device mentality and improve the Kinect performance, make it actually worth the extra $100. Then it might be worth buying
So how soon is it going to be before we see Microsoft's version of the Sega 32X?
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Old 11-20-2013, 03:19 PM   #1318
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I must be in the minority here but system exclusive games rarely appeal to me, I think I have to go back to the Metal Gear games on PS2 to find exclusives I was really passionate about. Don't get me started on the kinect, I got it for Christmas and I used it 1 time.

Never been big into racing games, didn't really enjoy Halo, tried to play the Dead Rising series but never ended up finishing a game, Never played Gears. I didn't have a PS3 so I can't comment on any of those games. I only regret not getting a PS3 because I missed a new Metal Gear game.

Now that I have PS4 I have Battlefield and I am looking forward to Watch Dogs, The Division, and I have Infamous ordered. Who knows, maybe Infamous will be the next exclusive to disappoint me.

Where Microsoft lost me is the same features that Robaur was gushing about earlier, what does the console do other than playing games? Who cares?! I just want it to play games, and play games well.
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So how soon is it going to be before we see Microsoft's version of the Sega 32X?
Heh, as a kid I actually had a Genesis, Sega CD, and really wanted a 32x to make the "ultimate" system (must have been a Power Rangers mentality). But when I bought one it just wouldn't work with my Genesis, so disappointingly I returned it and bought a Playstation instead. Must have been fate
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I didn't have a PS3 so I can't comment on any of those games. I only regret not getting a PS3 because I missed a new Metal Gear game.
Nothing wrong with getting a PS3 system now or when they go for super cheap in the next few months. So many good (and low) priced games.

It would be unfortunate to miss out on things like The Last of Us, all 3 Uncharted, etc.
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