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[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Miniac

13 pages later

Pat Steinberg ‏@Fan960Steinberg
Sounds like false alarm re: Baertschi. Looks like he'll play tonight. Jackman and Smith look to sit out. #Flames

5 pages later Yogi Berra is still starting though.... barf!

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

5 pages later Yogi Berra is still starting though.... barf!

Ramo is playing, barf
MacDonald is playing, barf

Despite looking shaky in the third against the Oilers I think Berra has still played the best of any of the three this year. No harm in riding him for a stretch see what he can do, see how he can bounce back etc. Neither Ramo nor Berra are probably long term solutions but I've felt a lot more comfortable with the latter then the former so far this year.

[djsFlames]

After Saturday night I don't even know what to expect..

Can only cheer on the young kids and hope for the best.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Why shouldn't we be literal?

I don't see this comment as significantly more unnecessary as any comments the coach is prompted to make by the media. I don't see the comment as a borderline shot either. It was not a shot at Sven. It was a shot at the media (and I guess some posters here) who were reacting to Sven's benchings as if he was a hall of famer and not a rookie who's struggled at times.

Harmless quote IMO. Guess we'll have to agree to disagree since some of you seem to want to spin drama out of nothing. I will maintain that you and others are overreacting to a big extent. I doubt Sven gets bent out of shape at all by the comment which mean the comment somehow offends fans worse than the player? To me that is silly.

I wonder what would have happened if a reporter fired back and said "Well, you're no Scotty Bowman either".

I guess Hartley would have been ok with it because he is not Bowman.

[Burner]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Ramo is playing, barf
MacDonald is playing, barf

Despite looking shaky in the third against the Oilers I think Berra has still played the best of any of the three this year. No harm in riding him for a stretch see what he can do, see how he can bounce back etc. Neither Ramo nor Berra are probably long term solutions but I've felt a lot more comfortable with the latter then the former so far this year.

I would agree the only argument is that Ramo hasnt been given a long stretch of consistent playing time to get comfortable and show what he has. All I know is that I am happier having Ramo or Berra playing then MacD.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Ramo is playing, barf
MacDonald is playing, barf

Despite looking shaky in the third against the Oilers I think Berra has still played the best of any of the three this year. No harm in riding him for a stretch see what he can do, see how he can bounce back etc. Neither Ramo nor Berra are probably long term solutions but I've felt a lot more comfortable with the latter then the former so far this year.

The dude lost to the fricking Oilers. and on one of the worst goals ever. He doesn't deserve to start for 3 weeks! barf!

[theinfinitejar]

Originally Posted by browna

Box score of the last time the Flames were in Winnipeg.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/boxs...604060WIN.html

How that lineup got to the playoffs, I don't know, but they finished just over .500 for the year and got swept.

I was at that game and I might have a copy of it on VHS somewhere.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Burner

I would agree the only argument is that Ramo hasnt been given a long stretch of consistent playing time to get comfortable and show what he has. All I know is that I am happier having Ramo or Berra playing then MacD.

From the 19th - 30th of October he played five of the six games

[Enoch Root]

It seems to me that a popular tactic among good coaches, when the team is in a funk (in this case having lost 6 in a row and 10 out of 12), is to deflect attention and pressure away from the players.

Hartley seems to like to throw logs onto the fire.

I hope it works out for him but I won't be surprised if the team lays an egg tonight.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

The dude lost to the fricking Oilers. and on one of the worst goals ever. He doesn't deserve to start for 3 weeks! barf!

Okay you win, you said barf, I can't challenge the wisdom of a 13 year old Valley girl.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

I wonder what would have happened if a reporter fired back and said "Well, you're no Scotty Bowman either".

I guess Hartley would have been ok with it because he is not Bowman.

I think all involved would have a good laugh.

[Zevo]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

I wonder what would have happened if a reporter fired back and said "Well, you're no Scotty Bowman either".

I guess Hartley would have been ok with it because he is not Bowman.

Hartley would have responded something like "yup you're right, what's your point" at which point the reporter would have looked stupid.

[Burner]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

From the 19th - 30th of October he played five of the six games

Good point - but it felt like he was on a quick string to get pulled out - maybe just my feeling but Berra has definitely been given an opportunity even if there were mistakes to keep on playing.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Okay you win, you said barf, I can't challenge the wisdom of a 13 year old Valley girl.

TOTally!! As if!

Hartley in Clueless bitches!

[Bertuzzied]

I have sources telling me the reason why Hartley doesn't like Sven is because his French has a swiss accent rather than a quebec accent.

[foshizzle11]

Maybe they need this pressure to help them perform. Maybe it is too much. Every player is different and we can only wait and see how Sven progresses.

Hartley wont be going anywhere. He will be here for a couple more seasons IMO. I have no problem with that. Everyone needs to buy into his systems and play as a team. Players who don't buy in should be shipped out. This has been a problem in the past, players thinking they know better.

This is the route the Flames organization wants to go and if players don't fit into the plan I think they will be moved before Feaster and Hartley are.

If after the 2014/2015 season we don't see any profess then discuss canning Hartley. By progress I don't mean necessarily in the standings, just forward in personal progress and work ethic.

[Banner]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

The dude lost to the fricking Oilers. and on one of the worst goals ever. He doesn't deserve to start for 3 weeks! barf!

Your recent posts have been so facepalm worthy that I honestly can't tell whether you're joking or not. Other goalies besides Berra have lost to the Oilers this season as well, hell even Kipper lost a few games against this same inexperienced Oilers team.

Maybe you should stop posting for 3 weeks instead?

[irrevocable]

Originally Posted by Banner

Your recent posts have been so facepalm worthy that I honestly can't tell whether you're joking or not. Other goalies besides Berra have lost to the Oilers this season as well, hell even Kipper lost a few games against this same inexperienced Oilers team.

Maybe you should stop posting for 3 weeks instead?

When the weather starts to change the crazy comes out. It happens all across the board. Bertuzzied is just another victim.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

The dude lost to the fricking Oilers. and on one of the worst goals ever. He doesn't deserve to start for 3 weeks! barf!

As we try to figure out what we have in our goalies, I like the approach being taken. This is a rebuild year, so results don't mean much. I like that Hartley seems to be giving each goalie stretches to show what they can do. How do they respond after loses that aren't their fault, how do they respond after they cost their team a game (like Berra just did)? No better way to see what you have in each of them. Ramo will get another extended shot at some point I'm sure.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Banner

Your recent posts have been so facepalm worthy that I honestly can't tell whether you're joking or not. Other goalies besides Berra have lost to the Oilers this season as well, hell even Kipper lost a few games against this same inexperienced Oilers team.

Maybe you should stop posting for 3 weeks instead?

Can't believe people are defending Berra. Just mind bottling. The guy has 1 win and was shelled the game before against the Stars.