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TurnedTheCorner · 11-01-2013, 10:17 PM

Bronze Medallist Ashax on right during the 200m medal ceremony in Mexico City.

Frank MetaMusil · 11-01-2013, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

This is the same team that gave up on Savard and St. Louis. And while I understand that this is obviously a completely different management/coaching group, every single poster would undo these mistakes of the past (yes, hindsight is 20/20, but let's learn from these errors).

What we're doing with Backlund is a mistake. I don't want to see the future repeat itself.

St. Louis credited Brian Sutter for making him defensively sound. I know that rings hollow right now, but Backlund is still with the team. He wasn't traded for and wasn't signed as an undrafted player either.

You need patience man. Go have a drink.

Jbo · 11-01-2013, 10:17 PM

Okay so how many chances does Backlund need?

He was handed 1st line Center duties a couple years ago and was never able to step up in the role. That is why we have guys like Stajan still around. Backlund has never made the next step.

In fact, when has Backlund ever played his way into a larger position? All this talk about ice time not being earned, but Backlund has never taken advantage of opportunities when they were given to him.

Ashasx · 11-01-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

What stats? Career high 25 point season? He has never, ever broke out offensively.

It's almost as if you are being purposely shortsighted.

theinfinitejar · 11-01-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

All the defenseman on this team have taken their turns for the most part. In fact I'm really disappointed in Wideman. He's been horrible on the power play and that's the main reason he's been added to this team. This team needs him to be better if the PP is ever going to get back on track.

Difference is Butler has a much longer track record of being horrible.

nik- · 11-01-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

Bronze Medallist Ashax on right during the 200m medal ceremony in Mexico City.

ok dude, we get it.

Cali Panthers Fan · 11-01-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

This is the same team that gave up on Savard and St. Louis. And while I understand that this is obviously a completely different management/coaching group, every single poster would undo these mistakes of the past (yes, hindsight is 20/20, but let's learn from these errors).

What we're doing with Backlund is a mistake. I don't want to see the future repeat itself.

So Feaster and Hartley are responsible for what Craig Button and Greg Gilbert/Don Hay/Brian Sutter did?

And now Backlund is on the level of Savard and St. Louis?

Get a grip. Put down the bottle. Step away from the keyboard.

Yoho · 11-01-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Give it a rest and take a break away for a while. If you start be-atching because a player gets excited or scoring a goal in the last minute with the oalie pulled, you have lost all perspective.

Thanks mom

It's just an indication to me of a player that cares more about the me than the we

Hells Bells · 11-01-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

This is the same team that gave up on Savard and St. Louis. And while I understand that this is obviously a completely different management/coaching group, every single poster would undo these mistakes of the past (yes, hindsight is 20/20, but let's learn from these errors).

What we're doing with Backlund is a mistake. I don't want to see the future repeat itself.

The Flames never gave up on Savard.

Mike F · 11-01-2013, 10:19 PM

FWIW, a look at advanced stats show Backlund head and shoulders above Colborne in effectiveness.

Backlund iFenwick: 24 (3rd best on the team)
Colborne iFenwick: 6 (tied for worst on the team)

Ashasx · 11-01-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

St. Louis credited Brian Sutter for making him defensively sound. I know that rings hollow right now, but Backlund is still with the team. He wasn't traded for and wasn't signed as an undrafted player either.

You need patience man. Go have a drink.

Yeah, nice to see how that benefited the Flames.

Clever_Iggy · 11-01-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

Bronze Medallist Ashax on right during the 200m medal ceremony in Mexico City.

I was just googling for that picture to post. Hahaha. Ashax making his stand.

transplant99 · 11-01-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoho

Thanks mom

It's just an indication to me of a player that cares more about the me than the we

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight,

Curtis Glencross isnt a team player.

Good grief.

Resolute 14 · 11-01-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheChief

Good to see glencross celebrate that goal guy is a real lead by example type captain material right there

Get this guy off the team

I see the morons are out in full force tonight.

Frankly, if you want to overreact and throw people off the team, send Brodie packing too. That is two games in a row that the game-winning goal was scored because he made a stupid pass attempt that was immediately turned over.

Ashasx · 11-01-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

So Feaster and Hartley are responsible for what Craig Button and Greg Gilbert/Don Hay/Brian Sutter did?

And now Backlund is on the level of Savard and St. Louis?

Get a grip. Put down the bottle. Step away from the keyboard.

Did you think Savard had 97 point potential in 2003? St. Louis with Art Ross potential?

Well, obviously the Flames didn't.

Frank MetaMusil · 11-01-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

Yeah, nice to see how that benefited the Flames.

Look, the team hasn't given up on Backlund. You're not happy with his minutes? That's fair as well. If this was a win, a lot of what you're feeling wouldn't be so extreme.

On the other hand, there's a team up the #2 that plays their young guys 20+ minutes a night and they suck worse than Calgary does.

All I know is, Bob Hartley > Brent Sutter. The rest of the chips will fall as they may.

transplant99 · 11-01-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

Did you think Savard had 97 point potential in 2003? St. Louis with Art Ross potential?

Well, obviously the Flames didn't.

Did you?

nik- · 11-01-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

Look, the team hasn't given up on Backlund. You're not happy with his minutes? That's fair as well. If this was a win, a lot of what you're feeling wouldn't be so extreme.

On the other hand, there's a team up the #2 that plays their young guys 20+ minutes a night and they suck worse than Calgary does.

All I know is, Bob Hartley > Brent Sutter. The rest of the chips will fall as they may.

Hartley is more positive, but he's not a better coach.

Ashasx · 11-01-2013, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

Did you?

I knew enough that what we got in return for Savard was as bad as it gets.

Jbo · 11-01-2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nik-

Hartley is more positive, but he's not a better coach.

Hartley has gotten more out of less in my opinion