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Old 11-01-2013, 09:53 PM   #41
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Stajan and Colborne. Don't #### on a guy for his offensive game and then put him with Bouma and MacGrattan to validate your opinion.


If this is the organizational outlook and not just Hartley thinking he's a good coach, then it worries me.

Stajan and Colborn have both been better than he has though...therefore Hartley is doing what everyone seems to want him to, and playing the guy who has earned the icetime.

I like Backlund, but he very simply hasnt been very good for the last 10 days or so and it seems that he has been like this in his career. His inconsistency is only on one person...him. So now he has to do what he needs to and play the way he is asked...regardless of who is on his wing.

He has to battle through this stuff, its what happens with younger guys (and he is getting into not being a "young" guy territory) and show they can respond.
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Good to see glencross celebrate that goal guy is a real lead by example type captain material right there

Get this guy off the team
I have to agree here. What the hell was he celebrating? You're still down a goal and heading for another defeat.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:54 PM   #44
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Speaking of players that may or not deserve a benching, Brodie has to stop giving pucks away. I wonder if Billins will slide in for a game in place of him. Even Butler has looked better defensively than him.
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I'm not a big Hartley fan but it's way too early for the pitchforks. This is the hardest playing Flames team since 2006 and I have to give him credit for getting the players to play hard every night. Unlike most here I'm not that high on Backlund as I feel he's not going to amount to much more than he is so I don't have an issue with Hartley challenging him to be better because he's not living up to his draft status quite frankly.
I'm not going to sit here and pump Hartley's tires, however for where this team is at, it's infinitely more exciting than the 3 full seasons prior to his arrival.

Central scouting had Backlund as the 2nd best european forward in the entire 2007 draft. He just doesnt have that extra gear, at least in Calgary. I don't understand some of Hartley's lineup moves, but then again I bashed a ton of Brent's.

Monahan is already better than Backlund. He's the 1st line center this team needs. Backlund looks bad on the 3rd/4th lines because he's not tough enough.

Puckluck said it best, there are other teams who could turn Backlund into a stud (Detroit) but that's also just speculation. As for Ramo, I don't think he's that much better than MacDonald honestly. They are both bad. I'd give Berra a shot, it's a rebuild afterall.
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Backlund can play the wing.

Give him Glencross' icetime... if anyone deserves 8 mins or less, its Curtis.
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Lol Colborne isn't part of the future. He's Burke affirming a past decision and Hartley jamming it down our throats. At least in the past few games he's earned some of the minutes, because for the most part he's been nothing at all.
Tinfoil hat time? Colborne has been earning his ice time. I don't know why you think otherwise.
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Glencross with many turnovers and being weak on the puck = 20 minutes playing with offensive capable players in Stajan and Jones
Backlund playing hard in both ends of the ice and being the only player who can consistently win face-offs = 8 minutes playing with a goon and a grinder

How will he show his offensive potential with that?

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love the effort

aside from atrocious special teams and a career backup + best x outside the NHL goalie tandem I'm happy with how things are going
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Tinfoil hat time? Colborne has been earning his ice time. I don't know why you think otherwise.
The last few games yes, but he was crap for most of the games so far and his minutes were still going up and up.

And, tinfoil hat? Do you legitimately think Colborne is even here if Burke isn't? Not a chance.
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Simple solution to the Backlund ice time problem.......trade Stajan for draft pick(s).

Backlund (24), Colborne (23), and Monahan (19) are the centres I want to see getting ice time on a rebuilding team anyways.

Not to mention we have Knight and others down on the farm as well.
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There's a reason MacDonald has been a career backup, and not very sought-after one...

There's also a reason Ramo wasn't in the NHL before we brought him over... While I think he shows promise, he needs to backup a decent tender and be given time to adjust and develop.

This team really misses Gio.

I strongly question the ice time devoted to Sven and Backs tonight. We went down by two early, and these guys are hungry, skilled and yearning to prove themselves. Coaching crushes my soul sometimes.

The PP is an abomination. Why our young, skilled, hungry guys weren't given ample opportunity crushes my soul.
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If Colborne represents our future... we are in huge trouble.

No Flame has done less given their ice time than Colborne this season.

Except Backlund
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Tinfoil hat time? Colborne has been earning his ice time. I don't know why you think otherwise.
He played 24 minutes last game. More than any other forward this season.

No, he did not earn that ice time. It's obvious that he's being gifted the opportunity because he's Burke's player. Just like Butler would have been waived 2 years ago if he wasn't Feaster's player.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:58 PM   #57
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Hartley is sacrificing the future to try and win now.

Problem is, every time he tries to do that, the team loses.
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The last few games yes, but he was crap for most of the games so far and his minutes were still going up and up.

And, tinfoil hat? Do you legitimately think Colborne is even here if Burke isn't? Not a chance.
It's possible that Burke is the reason, but it's also legitimately possible that he didn't say much about it since he really hasn't assumed any duties until this week. The kid has always had NHL ability but he's now getting a chance to show it. Feaster and Weisbrod probably had their eyes on him for awhile now.
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If Colborne represents our future... we are in huge trouble.

No Flame has done less given their ice time than Colborne this season.
I don't know what to say to you. I respect everyone's opinion's here but you just aren't rational and get too emotionally involved with players you like. You are so over the top that I feel it's no use arguing with you. Backlund is a very mediocre player right now and if he's ever going to fulfil his potential he needs to be prodded now because he's getting at that age where if he doesn't turn the corner soon he's going to get added to the scrap heap of 1st round draft picks that didn't live up to their potential.
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I don't know what to say to you. I respect everyone's opinion's here but you just aren't rational and get too emotionally involved with players you like. Backlund is a very mediocre player right now and if he's ever going to fulfil his potential he needs to be prodded now because he's getting at that age where if he doesn't turn the corner soon he's going to get added to the scrap heap of 1st round draft picks that didn't live up to their potential.
You are missing my point. Colborne is making mistakes too. He's only 1 year younger than Backlund.

Yet you suggest we hold Backlund to a different level of accountability? Why?

Again, the only reason is bias. He's Burke's player.
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