[News] Flames will keep Monahan for the rest of the season

[Corral]

I was definitely wrong about Monahan early in the season. Good for him. I'm also impressed with how his play without the puck has changed already.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Okay but I don't see the upside in him going.

Sometimes MMF, its just not all about you.

The kid will enjoy himself, there's a possibility he may get some benefit out of it (it certainly won't hurt him), in the long run, missing 4 games won't be detrimental to the Flames, and a lot of fans (me included) will get to see him play in the WJC which we all look forward to watching over the Christmas holidays.

[MrMastodonFarm]

The kid will enjoy himself, there's a possibility he may get some benefit out of it (it certainly won't hurt him), in the long run, missing 4 games won't be detrimental to the Flames, and a lot of fans (me included) will get to see him play in the WJC which we all look forward to watching over the Christmas holidays

Sometimes Rerun, its just not all about you.

[Flames_F.T.W]

I'm pretty pumped by this news. He definitely earned it and I'm glad they kept him up. It would have looked bad to future rookies if he performed as well as he did, only to get returned to junior for fear of ELC complications down the line.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Sometimes Rerun, its just not all about you.

Its about me ??? Nahh.... ok maybe a little bit... but its more about the kid.

I doubt there's ever been a kid who played in the WJC (at least for Canada) who said to himself... "What a waste of time. I shoulda stayed home."

But I bet there are millions who have said "I wish I could or could have played in the WJC and represented my country".

[MrMastodonFarm]

Yeah, you're probably right but that's an emotional thing. I don't think the World Juniors has shown to be a huge moment in development for any one player, has it?

Seem like just another thing.

[Badgers Nose]

19 and he is already arguably this team's 1C.

If he keeps his commitment to learning faceoffs than IMO the Toews comparisons are totally appropriate. He is the Flames Captain Serious.

AWESOME

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Table 5

• Gets to directly compete against elite players his age to see where he stands.
• Gets the chance to possibly play in a high-pressure sudden-death situation.
• Gets to represent his country and possibly fulfill a dream (what hockey kid doesnt have great memories of watching the WJCs?).
• Gets the chance to develop his leadership skills.
• Gets to see hot swedish babes.

I think those are pretty good reasons. The WJC's might not be the NHL playoffs, but I think they are a great learning experience for a 19 year old.

All good points. However, if his goal/point totals put him in the calder race, I'd like to see him have the maximum opportunity to keep putting up points in the NHL.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Yeah, you're probably right but that's an emotional thing. I don't think the World Juniors has shown to be a huge moment in development for any one player, has it?

Seem like just another thing.

Hockey's an emotional game. The WJC may very well be an important event to Sean. If he wants to go and his absence won't critically affect the Flames, let him go. If I was Flames mgmt. I'd be doing everything I can to keep him happy. It will only pay dividends down the road in his development and come contract renewal time.

As to helping his development... physically probably not. Skill wise... probably not. Mentally and emotionally... perhaps. We are all the sum of all our experiences throughout our life.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

All good points. However, if his goal/point totals put him in the calder race, I'd like to see him have the maximum opportunity to keep putting up points in the NHL.

Good point. Him being in the thick of Calder race would be a viable reason of keeping him here. Although perhaps his competitors might also be going, negating any lost games.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by codynw

I see your Hart and raise you this:

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

All good points. However, if his goal/point totals put him in the calder race, I'd like to see him have the maximum opportunity to keep putting up points in the NHL.

Originally Posted by Table 5

Good point. Him being in the thick of Calder race would be a viable reason of keeping him here. Although perhaps his competitors might also be going, negating any lost games.

If it comes down to that, let him decide which is more important to him... a chance at the Calder Cup trophy or a chance at a gold medal.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Table 5

How many games do players miss by going to the WJC, 3-5?

You have to take the pre-tournament camp and travel into consideration too.

Last year's camp started on December 11. It may have been a little earlier than normal because they had to travel so far for the tournament. I can't find any information about this year's camp, but it is likely to be close to the same time frame because the tournament is in Sweden.

The Flames go on a 5 game road trip in the middle of December. If he attends the Junior camp, he likely won't go on that trip. The Gold Medal game is January 5. The Flames play in Colorado and Phoenix on January 6 & 7. His first game back would likely be January 9.

The Flames play 12 games in the time he would likely be away.

[FlamesAddiction]

I usually prefer to err on the side of caution and send them back to junior to avoid injury and burnout, but Monahan has fit in so well that it's hard to not give him the chance that he earned.

[TheSutterDynasty]

Can someone please explain to me the difference between the Flames burning a year on Monahan's ELC in a year that we (realistically) will not compete vs the Oilers doing the same and 'ruining' their prospects?

We should be playing the Detroit system and letting prospects ripen in Junior before bringing them in when they're ready. Playing in the NHL for a complete year can shatter a 19 year old's confidence and stall/ruin their development.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by TheSutterDynasty

Can someone please explain to me the difference between the Flames burning a year on Monahan's ELC in a year that we (realistically) will not compete vs the Oilers doing the same and 'ruining' their prospects?

We should be playing the Detroit system and letting prospects ripen in Junior before bringing them in when they're ready. Playing in the NHL for a complete year can shatter a 19 year old's confidence and stall/ruin their development.

Monahan is ready. He has shown he's ready.

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by TheSutterDynasty

Can someone please explain to me the difference between the Flames burning a year on Monahan's ELC in a year that we (realistically) will not compete vs the Oilers doing the same and 'ruining' their prospects?

We should be playing the Detroit system and letting prospects ripen in Junior before bringing them in when they're ready. Playing in the NHL for a complete year can shatter a 19 year old's confidence and stall/ruin their development.

Because Detroit's system of over ripening prospects is a myth. The team is still desperately clinging onto veterans instead of making space for prospects who look more than capable of stepping in.

[Francis's Hairpiece]

Originally Posted by TheSutterDynasty

Can someone please explain to me the difference between the Flames burning a year on Monahan's ELC in a year that we (realistically) will not compete vs the Oilers doing the same and 'ruining' their prospects?

We should be playing the Detroit system and letting prospects ripen in Junior before bringing them in when they're ready. Playing in the NHL for a complete year can shatter a 19 year old's confidence and stall/ruin their development.

Hard to lump all 19 year olds together. You go case by case, and let the player dictate your moves.

[Poe969]

I'm not sure this looks shattered...

[TheSutterDynasty]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Monahan is ready. He has shown he's ready.

No doubt he's looked pretty good. So did Sam Gagner in his first few games as an 18 year old. That first year seemed to really stall his development.

Is 9 games a good enough sample size in an 82 game schedule?