[News] Flames will keep Monahan for the rest of the season

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

I agree with your sentiment, not sure I agree going to the WJC's is key to his development. I won't pretend to know what's better, but going to the WJC is taking a step down in competition level from the day to day in the NHL. I don't think you can blanketly say going is going to be what's best for Monahan, it's likely a case by case basis, and very much dependent on what each player needs.

It's also a once in a lifetime opportunity for a KID (let's remember he is barely 19) to not only play for his country, but to do it as a key member of what is potentially a gold medal winning team. It's not necessarily about giving his development any sort of boost as it is giving a kid an opportunity that he has no doubt dreamed about and has worked his butt off towards.

Yes the NHL is a higher goal, but that doesn't negate the experience he would receive from going to the WJC. And no I don't mean hockey experience, I mean life experience.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by MattyC

It's also a once in a lifetime opportunity for a KID (let's remember he is barely 19) to not only play for his country, but to do it as a key member of what is potentially a gold medal winning team. It's not necessarily about giving his development any sort of boost as it is giving a kid an opportunity that he has no doubt dreamed about and has worked his butt off towards.

Yes the NHL is a higher goal, but that doesn't negate the experience he would receive from going to the WJC. And no I don't mean hockey experience, I mean life experience.

He probably had a bigger dream of playing in the NHL. I doubt Sean Monahan is that sensitive that he won't get over it.

He's played in junior aged world tournaments before, the U19 just gets far and away the most press.

[GirlySports]

If the World Juniors were bring played in Canada, I would be in favour of sending him due to the media coverage, pressure and sold out arenas.

The tournament in Sweden? What's the point sending him way over there to play in empty buildings? (Canada and Sweden aren't even in the same group)

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by MattyC

It's also a once in a lifetime opportunity for a KID (let's remember he is barely 19) to not only play for his country, but to do it as a key member of what is potentially a gold medal winning team. It's not necessarily about giving his development any sort of boost as it is giving a kid an opportunity that he has no doubt dreamed about and has worked his butt off towards.

Yes the NHL is a higher goal, but that doesn't negate the experience he would receive from going to the WJC. And no I don't mean hockey experience, I mean life experience.

He'll be on the Olympic team

[Poe969]

I think he should go either way. It is going to help him in a few ways and I want him to get his foot in the door with team Canada for the future.

IF he goes, do you think he'd have a leadership role?

[megatron]

Great news!

He completely earned it and it is best for his development.

Congrats Monahan.

[LickTheEnvelope]

Excellent choice Flames.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

He probably had a bigger dream of playing in the NHL. I doubt Sean Monahan is that sensitive that he won't get over it.

He's played in junior aged world tournaments before, the U19 just gets far and away the most press.

I did say he had a bigger dream of playing in the NHL. But now, to miss what would be a few of potentially 1000+ games of NHL hockey for a one-time tournament, I really see no reason why the Flames should deprive him of that experience. NHL is obviously the top-tier goal, but I think something could be said about the Flames for letting a kid get a great life experience that very, very few people will ever get to enjoy.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

He probably had a bigger dream of playing in the NHL. I doubt Sean Monahan is that sensitive that he won't get over it.

What exactly does he, or the Flames, have to lose by going? A handful of games out of 82? What will he gain from those 3 games that he won't get from the rest of the season? The upside might not be as huge as some of us say, but I just don't see the downside of not going.

[SuperMatt18]

Think you assess how he is playing at the time.

If he seems to have hit a bit of dry patch, they should let him go over there, take in a great experience, and get some confidence back as the leader on that team.

If he is still producing in the NHL and playing 18 minutes a night then I think you have to leave him in the NHL lineup.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Table 5

What exactly does he, or the Flames, have to lose by going? A handful of games out of 82? What will he gain from those 3 games that he won't get from the rest of the season? The upside might not be as huge as some of us say, but I just don't see the downside of not going.

Okay but I don't see the upside in him going.

He'll go down, adjust to a slower paced game, then have to come back to the NHL and adjust again to the faster paced game. Yes, at the end of the day it won't matter but it all seems pointless to me. He's in the NHL, that's the goal, keep playing him there.

If the World Juniors wasn't such a fun tournament for fans to watch would anyone really care? Would anyone be insisting he gets sent?

I'd imagine no.

[Enoch Root]

As fans, it would be great to see him go.

Ironically though, his presence (or not) might have a significant effect on the chances of Jankowski making the team.

[albertGQ]

If Sean is struggling in mid December and the Flames are celler dwellers, then I can see him going to the WJC to get his confidence back.

But if he's playing meaningful minutes and the Flames are a bubble team, it would be ######ed for us to lend him out for the tourney.

[Poe969]

!00% disagree. I think Jankowski's play is the only thing that affects if he makes the team or not.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I did say he had a bigger dream of playing in the NHL. But now, to miss what would be a few of potentially 1000+ games of NHL hockey for a one-time tournament, I really see no reason why the Flames should deprive him of that experience. NHL is obviously the top-tier goal, but I think something could be said about the Flames for letting a kid get a great life experience that very, very few people will ever get to enjoy.

The World Juniors isn't a one-time tournament.

The "World Juniors" as we call it is really the IIHF World U20 Championship tournament. There are similar tournaments for other age groups too. The IIHF World U18 Championship and the World U-17 Hockey Challenge, both of which Monahan played in.

This one just gets more press because it has either NHL drafted players, or big names on the verge of being drafted.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Poe969

!00% disagree. I think Jankowski's play is the only thing that affects if he makes the team or not.

Obviously Jankowski's play dictates.

But there are only so many spots. And they are very similar players.

Monahan's presence would seriously limit the available opportunity for Jankowski.

I get what you are saying, but to ignore the fact that thee are only so many spots is kind of silly.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Okay but I don't see the upside in him going.

• Gets to directly compete against elite players his age to see where he stands.
• Gets the chance to possibly play in a high-pressure sudden-death situation.
• Gets to represent his country and possibly fulfill a dream (what hockey kid doesnt have great memories of watching the WJCs?).
• Gets the chance to develop his leadership skills.
• Gets to see hot swedish babes.

I think those are pretty good reasons. The WJC's might not be the NHL playoffs, but I think they are a great learning experience for a 19 year old.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

The World Juniors isn't a one-time tournament.

The "World Juniors" as we call it is really the IIHF World U20 Championship tournament. There are similar tournaments for other age groups too. The IIHF World U18 Championship and the World U-17 Hockey Challenge, both of which Monahan played in.

This one just gets more press because it has either NHL drafted players, or big names on the verge of being drafted.

Yes I know the structureof the youth tournaments, and I guess its a good point since Monahan did play in the u17 and u18 tournaments. Maybe the Flames should leave it up to him when the time comes. If he doesn't want to go fine, if he does I see no real reason not to let him. It's a step down in play, but so is playing the Oilers so what does it matter?

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Table 5

• Gets to directly compete against elite players his age to see where he stands.
• Gets the chance to possibly play in a high-pressure sudden-death situation.
• Gets to represent his country and possibly fulfill a dream (what hockey kid doesnt have great memories of watching the WJCs?).
• Gets the chance to develop his leadership skills.
• Gets to see hot swedish babes.

I think those are pretty good reasons. The WJC's might not be the NHL playoffs, but I think they are a great learning experience for a 19 year old.

• Potentially plays with Emile Poirier

At the end of the day I'm not saying going to the WJC is a bad move, if he goes that's great I'll watch and enjoy it. Monahan seems to let nothing rattle him so I'm not too worried, I just think the NHL is the best option for him, but I don't think going is a bad one either.

[redforever]

Well I for one don't see any advantage of Brent Sutter coaching him and turning him into a plugger.