Latte Sipping, YOP Gobbling Urban Planning Megathread - Page 4 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

undercoverbrother · 10-23-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Regulator75

Yop-Gobbler sounds so gross compared to Latte Sipper.

Nothing ever sounds good with the word Gobbler associated to it.

unless you are the one receiving the gobbling....

undercoverbrother · 10-23-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigtime

Number 2. I think that is a very fair statement that implies we are all in this together and we should all bear the appropriate costs to keep the city running.

Sorry I am running on very little sleep, so I must have missread/missunderstood you post.

At the end of the day I no longer have skin in this game.

MarchHare · 10-23-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigtime

I also think the latte-sipping area shall be defined by the current Car2Go home area. Thoughts?

That's way too large, IMO.

For me, "inner city" means being within a ~30 minute walk of the downtown core. In terms of neighbourhoods, I would classify anyone who lives in any of these areas as a latte-sipper: Beltline, Mission, Lower Mount Royal, Cliff Bungalow, Sunalta, Sunnyside, Hillhurst/Kensington, Inglewood, Bridgeland. Also maybe Bankview, but that's pushing the limit.

I also really like the earlier suggestion of latte-sipper being defined by living within X KM of the Peace Bridge; we just need to come up with a reasonable value for X.

Ozy_Flame · 10-23-2013, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MarchHare

That's way too large, IMO.

For me, "inner city" means being within a ~30 minute walk of the downtown core. In terms of neighbourhoods, I would classify anyone who lives in any of these areas as a latte-sipper: Beltline, Mission, Lower Mount Royal, Cliff Bungalow, Sunalta, Sunnyside, Hillhurst/Kensington, Inglewood, Bridgeland. Also maybe Bankview, but that's pushing the limit.

I also really like the earlier suggestion of latte-sipper being defined by living within X KM of the Peace Bridge; we just need to come up with a reasonable value for X.

Got it --> you know that rule for dating women? Age /2 + 7. Seems like a good a formula as any since people like to "bitch" about it. Like the girlfriend that costs a lot of money

So, the Peace Bridge was 2010:

4/2 + 7 = 9

Anyone within 9 km of the bridge is inner city, and therefore have the potential to use it.

MrMastodonFarm · 10-23-2013, 10:54 AM

That's a dangerous game, x KM's away from the Peace Bridge. Plenty of latte's being arrogantly sipped in the East Village, Inglewood and 17th ave. Considering the western location of Mr. Calatrava's beautiful bridge of Peace we might have to re-think that.

Muta · 10-23-2013, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MarchHare

I also really like the earlier suggestion of latte-sipper being defined by living within X KM of the Peace Bridge; we just need to come up with a reasonable value for X.

Figure out the percentage of people wearing skinny jeans walking around. Once that drops below 50%, find out the distance to the bridge and that will now border yop-gobbler territory. Once that drops to <10% and you see baggy jeans with wallet chains, you're in Edmonton and you've gone too far.

DFO · 10-23-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MarchHare

That's way too large, IMO.

For me, "inner city" means being within a ~30 minute walk of the downtown core. In terms of neighbourhoods, I would classify anyone who lives in any of these areas as a latte-sipper: Beltline, Mission, Lower Mount Royal, Cliff Bungalow, Sunalta, Sunnyside, Hillhurst/Kensington, Inglewood, Bridgeland. Also maybe Bankview, but that's pushing the limit.

I also really like the earlier suggestion of latte-sipper being defined by living within X KM of the Peace Bridge; we just need to come up with a reasonable value for X.

Rosedale, Crescent Heights, and Renfrew are inner city I would think.

MarchHare · 10-23-2013, 10:57 AM

BTW, I LOVE the "yop gobblin" tag used for this thread. I'm imaging a goblin-like creature shaped like a YOP bottle. Can anyone with artistic skills draw "Latte Sippin" and "Yop Gobblin" mascots?

19Yzerman19 · 10-23-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MarchHare

I also really like the earlier suggestion of latte-sipper being defined by living within X KM of the Peace Bridge; we just need to come up with a reasonable value for X.

Inglewood really throws a wrench into this whole concept.

Hack&Lube · 10-23-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19

Inglewood really throws a wrench into this whole concept.

That's because latte sipping boundaries shouldn't be measured in kilometers but by mean cycle time to reach the nearest latte/vinyl store on the average hipster velocipede.

bizaro86 · 10-23-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GGG

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/da...ity/index.html

A link to population density by neighbourhood.

Do you know the sourcing on that? I was about to apologize for my West Hillhurst comments, which don't match the density from the Herald. Then I looked at my sources, which I think should be just as accurate.

Example: Census for West Hillhurst 2012 is 5802 people.
http://www.calgary.ca/_layouts/cocis...edirect=1&sf=1

Size of West Hillhurst is 2.4 km2
http://calgaryarea.com/index.php?p=c...st%20Hillhurst

For a density of 2418 people/km2, matching my previous post, while the Herald reports West Hillhurst at 3346 people/km2

MarchHare · 10-23-2013, 11:05 AM

How about this:

Anyone living within a 3KM radius of any of these landmarks is a latte sipper:

Peace Bridge (Eau Clair)
Ship & Anchor (17th Ave)
Oolong Tea House (Kensington)

Does that cover everyone?

Hack&Lube · 10-23-2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MarchHare

How about this:

Anyone living within a 3KM radius of any of these landmarks is a latte sipper:

Peace Bridge (Eau Clair)
Ship & Anchor (17th Ave)
Oolong Tea House (Kensington)

Does that cover everyone?

I still think it should be measured by maximum biking distance when hamstring/quads are trapped within skinny jeans.

_Q_ · 10-23-2013, 11:06 AM

Guys Inglewood is within the 5 km on a bike path limit from the Peace Bridge that qualifies its residents as Latte Sippers.

https://www.google.ca/maps/preview#!...5!4f13.1&fid=0

Yop-Gobbling, however is a different story, but that's a pretty exclusive club to be a part of.

Muta · 10-23-2013, 11:07 AM

I live close to Killarney. Can I be considered a latte-sipper? I want to be part of that club too.

Zarley · 10-23-2013, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MarchHare

How about this:

Anyone living within a 3KM radius of any of these landmarks is a latte sipper:

Peace Bridge (Eau Clair)
Ship & Anchor (17th Ave)
Oolong Tea House (Kensington)

Does that cover everyone?

I'd suggest adding Riva's Eco Store in Inglewood.

GGG · 10-23-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bizaro86

Do you know the sourcing on that? I was about to apologize for my West Hillhurst comments, which don't match the density from the Herald. Then I looked at my sources, which I think should be just as accurate.

Example: Census for West Hillhurst 2012 is 5802 people.
http://www.calgary.ca/_layouts/cocis...edirect=1&sf=1

Size of West Hillhurst is 2.4 km2
http://calgaryarea.com/index.php?p=c...st%20Hillhurst

For a density of 2418 people/km2, matching my previous post, while the Herald reports West Hillhurst at 3346 people/km2

No idea what the sourcing is I just through it out there as at least a baseline point for discussion. Are the census area for west hilhurst and the calgaryarea link for west hillhurst using the same boundarys?

Hack&Lube · 10-23-2013, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by _Q_

Guys Inglewood is within the 5 km on a bike path limit from the Peace Bridge that qualifies its residents as Latte Sippers.

https://www.google.ca/maps/preview#!...5!4f13.1&fid=0

Yop-Gobbling, however is a different story, but that's a pretty exclusive club to be a part of.

Yop-Gobbling parameters could be defined by the amount of space you have in your luxury SUV to load up palates of Yoplait from your weekly Costco runs to stock your 5000 square foot parasitic-sprawl home.

MarchHare · 10-23-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Zarley

I'd suggest adding Riva's Eco Store in Inglewood.

The only problem with that is that then you'd get people who live 3KM East of Inglewood (e.g. Forest Lawn, Erinwoods, etc.) added to the latte sipping crowd, which doesn't seem right.

What we need is a good landmark on the East end of downtown that would include Inglewood within its radius but exclude those other communities. Maybe the library or Olympic Plaza?

_Q_ · 10-23-2013, 11:11 AM

Wait a minute... is Yop-Gobbling a term for suburbanites? I thought they were just known as parasites.