Latte Sipping, YOP Gobbling Urban Planning Megathread

[NuclearPizzaMan]

Bulldoze all single family units in Sunnyside and replace them with multi-family units. Banish anyone who resists to Cranston.

Boom. All problems solved.

NEXT!

[V]

Originally Posted by GGG

I think roads becomes the focus because outside of the $4800 current subsidy the capital costs of everything else has been paid for by new communities. Waste Water, Sewage, Electrical etc.

I can only speak for electrical, but that's incorrect. The developers pay absolutely nothing for the power, as the utility invests in the infrastructure and collects interest on the asset through riders on your electrical bill that the entire rate base pays for.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

I'm getting some pushback from my suburbanite friends that don't understand that Yop-Gobbler is a badge of pride for them to wear.

Just tell them that using the term is "taking the word back"

[Bigtime]

I also think the latte-sipping area shall be defined by the current Car2Go home area. Thoughts?

[nik-]

North to 16th, south to Marda Loop, west to Bankview, East to Bridgeland/Renfrew?

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

I also think the latte-sipping area shall be defined by the current Car2Go home area. Thoughts?

I doubt there's much latte sipping happening in Dalhousie or Tuxedo Park, let alone Yop-Gobbling.

I think latte sipping/yop-gobbling should be defined as distance from the Peace Bridge. Say 2 km on a bike path to be a yop-gobbler and 5 km to be a latte sipper.

[nik-]

You have it backwards good sir.

I SAY GOOD SIR!

[19Yzerman19]

Originally Posted by _Q_

I think latte sipping/yop-gobbling should be defined as distance from the Peace Bridge. Say 2 km on a bike path to be a yop-gobbler and 5 km to be a latte sipper.

2km won't even get you to 17th Ave, much less Victoria Park. Shouldn't it be 5km for Latte Sippers and "no bike path reaches your home" for the other one?

[Flash Walken]

This thread warms my little progressive heart.

[Ozy_Flame]

Yop. If you have two kids, a backyard, white picket fence, and a cookie cutter house . . . .

YOP!

[GGG]

Originally Posted by DFO

But us inner city dwellers are paying more taxes - property values & assesments are higher than the outskirts.

Thats a progressive taxation measure, The same way higher incomes are taxed at a higher rate. I don't think you can argue that you are paying your share because you pay your higher taxes. In my magic future taxation world you would first assess tax based on lot size and then apply a income factor or a home value factor to make it so higher income paid more.

[undercoverbrother]

I have no issue with the passing on the costs of new developement to the "yop gobblers", while the latte crowd can bear the cost of the flood clean up in their areas, and the cost of future flood mitigation.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Regulator75

Some disgusting yogurt "drink" from the 90's.

Originally Posted by nik-

I hate to be the one to have to tell you this, but Yop is still awesome.

At times it was the best part about being in the military.........

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by nik-

North to 16th, south to Marda Loop, west to Bankview, East to Bridgeland/Renfrew?

The "inner city" is typically North - 16th, South Glenmore, West Crowchild, East Deerfoot.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I have no issue with the passing on the costs of new developement to the "yop gobblers", while the latte crowd can bear the cost of the flood clean up in their areas, and the cost of future flood mitigation.

Did you even read the first couple of pages (specifically my one statement)?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I have no issue with the passing on the costs of new developement to the "yop gobblers", while the latte crowd can bear the cost of the flood clean up in their areas, and the cost of future flood mitigation.

What about the people who pay for their YOPs by having downtown jobs?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Glad to see this thread start, I think it will be a good catch-all thread for all the very good debate and discussion to be had on the many issues our uni-city faces.

Oh and I am going to start using the Yop-Gobblers term as much as possible. It is the yin to our latte-sipping yang.

Originally Posted by Bigtime

I think part of the problem is the "Older communities didn't have to pay this" crowd.

Well what's in the past is in the past, time to make a clean break and move forward in a financially sustainable way, including infill and intensification of existing communities paying their appropriate costs too.

Originally Posted by Bigtime

I know, so why can't the city get that message out just as clearly? Instead it has become muddled into this false perception of inner-city vs suburbs.

I hate it.

Originally Posted by Bigtime

I'm getting some pushback from my suburbanite friends that don't understand that Yop-Gobbler is a badge of pride for them to wear.

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Did you even read the first couple of pages (specifically my one statement)?

Which one?

[GGG]

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/da...ity/index.html

A link to population density by neighbourhood.

[Bigtime]

Number 2. I think that is a very fair statement that implies we are all in this together and we should all bear the appropriate costs to keep the city running.

[Regulator75]

Yop-Gobbler sounds so gross compared to Latte Sipper.

Nothing ever sounds good with the word Gobbler associated to it.