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Old 09-04-2013, 04:03 PM   #21
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He was never going to make it anyway. Wish him the best.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:10 PM   #22
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Unfortunately most players that break into the NHL today do it and probably more than 10 mos.

Here is Mr. Toews playing spring hockey at age 8.
Is it possible that Mr. Toews would have made it without playing spring hockey, most likely.

I am totally going by memory (this never ends well) but I don't think Mr. Stamkos played spring hockey.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:15 PM   #23
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Fitness testing was held today for prospects attending the young stars tournament was it not?. Its just a guess but he could have failed his physical test.

Keith Tkachuk was suspended by St. Louis once for failing his physical test.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:17 PM   #24
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Fitness testing was held today for prospects attending the young stars tournament was it not?. Its just a guess but he could have failed his physical test.

Keith Tkachuk was suspended by St. Louis once for failing his physical test.
Flames twitter said he didn't report

Calgary Flames ‏@NHLFlames 31m #Flames prospect Ryan Howse has been suspended for failing to report to training camp.
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Howse will be that guy that single-handedly demolishes your team in your div. 7 beer league...
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Howse will be that guy that single-handedly demolishes your team in your div. 7 beer league...
Good thing they put a 3-goal cap on each player.

Seriously though, I hope that this is just a mistake on Howse's part. Maybe he still doesn't drive and he couldn't get a ride to camp?

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Old 09-04-2013, 04:39 PM   #27
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I thought his twitter handle was @howsefire but it doesn't seem to exist anymore. Wonder what happened, seriously hoped he made it further. Best of Luck in future endeavours Ryan.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:48 PM   #28
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Either he knows he is too fat or there are deeper issues here. Too bad for him but they flames are fine without him.

MOD EDIT: Deleted part of post. Let's not go there, please.

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Old 09-04-2013, 05:05 PM   #29
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I wonder if the Flames have actually heard from him or his agent (ie. our client doesn't feel like he fits in the organization).

Hopefully this isn't a much more serious personal situation (ie. no one has heard from him and thought he was on his way to Calgary)

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Old 09-04-2013, 05:08 PM   #30
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Kerr talking about this on 960.

Sounds like he's done with the Flames. Kerr also points out the Flames prospects have gotten a lot of better prospects since Howse joined the Flames organization.
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I wonder if the Flames have actually heard from him or his agent?

Hopefully this isn't a much more serious personal situation.
Considering that Howse's replacement for the Pencticton tournament was announced yesterday, I think the Flames were given some warning that Howse wouldn't report.
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Reading through some online articles on Howse it sounds like he has a history of poor nutrition and conditioning issues. Perhaps the summer got away from him and he knew he wasn't going to meet expectations.
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Reading through some online articles on Howse it sounds like he has a history of poor nutrition and conditioning issues. Perhaps the summer got away from him and he knew he wasn't going to meet expectations.
And in 2 years at least 20 others have passed him on the Flames prospect depth chart. Howse saw the writing on the wall and took the nearest exit.
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And in 2 years at least 20 others have passed him on the Flames prospect depth chart. Howse saw the writing on the wall and took the nearest exit.
Could be, .... it was only a couple years ago some here on CP were touting Mitch Wahl and Howse as 2nd or possibly 1st line future Flame players.
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:54 PM   #35
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Sounds like he's done. Good luck!
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:54 PM   #36
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Bit disappointing to hear. Was still rooting for the kid to find a way to make it. Fact is though he has definitely been replaced the last two years by better prospects.
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Could be, .... it was only a couple years ago some here on CP were touting Mitch Wahl and Howse as 2nd or possibly 1st line future Flame players.
At least Mitch Wahl actually showed the all 'round skill set and enough promise of being a future NHLer before his concussion

Howse on the other hand...
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:16 PM   #38
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And in 2 years at least 20 others have passed him on the Flames prospect depth chart. Howse saw the writing on the wall and took the nearest exit.
My guess is this is the issue.

He's 22. Has 1 point in 20 games in the AHL last year. When you show up to camp and now dozens of kids who are younger than you have passed you, you begin to see your future with the club. Probably goes from a situation where Flames management is eager to have you there and paying all sorts of attention, to one where they akwardly greet you with a "oh...you're here again".

Best of luck Ryan Howse. That leaves us with Ortio as our only hope of becomming an NHL player from the 2009 draft.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:29 PM   #39
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Is it possible that Mr. Toews would have made it without playing spring hockey, most likely.

I am totally going by memory (this never ends well) but I don't think Mr. Stamkos played spring hockey.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:33 PM   #40
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Interesting how Horak was, at the time of the trade, the key part of Tom deal. He was brought in because of his time playing with Howse in junior. Horak is now an NHLer, while another career is likely a wash.
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