Breaking Bad

[malcolmk14]

I have a theory for how the season is going to go down.

Spoiler!

In the past we have seen Walter kill people and then take traits of theirs after they're gone and make them his own. When he kills Crazy 8 he starts cutting the crusts off his sandwiches, and when he kills Mike he orders his next drink on the rocks like Mike used to do.

In the flash-forward in the Denny's, Walt is arranging his bacon on his plate into the number 52, something Skyler used to do for him on his birthday. He's also using an ID with the last name Lambert (Skyler and Marie's maiden name). I bet he kills Skyler (and maybe even Marie and Hank) before that last episode, and those are the traits he assumes of theirs.

I think the ricin is for Jesse.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

I have a theory for how the season is going to go down.

Spoiler!

In the past we have seen Walter kill people and then take traits of theirs after they're gone and make them his own. When he kills Crazy 8 he starts cutting the crusts off his sandwiches, and when he kills Mike he orders his next drink on the rocks like Mike used to do.

In the flash-forward in the Denny's, Walt is arranging his bacon on his plate into the number 52, something Skyler used to do for him on his birthday. He's also using an ID with the last name Lambert (Skyler and Marie's maiden name). I bet he kills Skyler (and maybe even Marie and Hank) before that last episode, and those are the traits he assumes of theirs.

I think the ricin is for Jesse.

Spoiler!

Using that idea, Jesse might already be dead...

[Daradon]

Yikes!

[Matata]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Jesse would never try to blackmail Walt. He knows that Walt would just kill him like he has with every other person that has gotten in his way.

"Killed 10 guys in jail inside of 2 minutes. Just sayin'."

[MrMastodonFarm]

Is Jesse even afraid of death at this point? Seems to welcome it.

[Acey]

Lydia is Scottish?!

Spoiler!

[TurnedTheCorner]

So I only made it as far as the Season 3 premiere on my first watch. I tried two times to get past that, but wasn't interested. I resolved to watch this leading up to the series finale, but re-started from the Season 1 pilot.

I remember now how annoyed I was with the Season 2 manipulation with the post plane-crash footage. All of the ominous coloring, the burned stuffed animal missing an eye, the wrecked Aztec with the body bags next to it...it felt really cheap and manipulative again this time around, just like it did the first time.

I hope this kind of stuff isn't present the rest of the series.

[Acey]

As an avid aviation enthusiast there's no way that I'm ever going to be happy with how an air disaster is portrayed, but I can assure you the slight misstep they made with those couple of scenes is no reason to bail on it. It gets pretty good. Really good.

[Daradon]

I felt the plane crash may have been the worst part of the series myself. They did play on the viewer that something big happened to Walt's family, because of the meth, and then it ends up being this event that really had nothing to do with anything, and only was connected through a, for lack of a better word, coincidence.

That said, I didn't think it was terrible. Certainly didn't stop me from continuing to watch the series.

I also liked season 2 the best. I know most people liked 4 the best, and really all of the seasons were great. But two had some killer episodes. The introduction to Saul. The five days cooking in the desert. The reveal of Skyler finding out Walt's secret (or rather that he was hiding something big).

The cancer was still in play then, and I think there were some great dramatic scenes with that. I could really identify with Walt, and Cranston knocked it out of the park.

Lastly, Jane was pretty easy on the eyes.

[getbak]

The Belize tourism board invites the cast to "take a trip to Belize"... http://www.gadling.com/2013/08/22/to...+%28Gadling%29

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Am I the only one who thought the plane crash thing was brilliant?

All season long, we're led to believe or guess one thing, but they totally throw a wrench into that plan at the last second and have this major catastrophe that was totally unrelated to anything in the season but at the same time, in large part Walt's fault.

I thought it was fantastic. And then I read the stuff about the names of those episodes that had the fast forward at the beginning......just awesome.

Put me in the big thumbs up to Season 2 group.

[TurnedTheCorner]

It wasn't bad, per se. It just felt cheap.

Anyway, just finished the IFT episode. lolling

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Am I the only one who thought the plane crash thing was brilliant?

All season long, we're led to believe or guess one thing, but they totally throw a wrench into that plan at the last second and have this major catastrophe that was totally unrelated to anything in the season but at the same time, in large part Walt's fault.

I thought it was fantastic. And then I read the stuff about the names of those episodes that had the fast forward at the beginning......just awesome.

Put me in the big thumbs up to Season 2 group.

It felt kinda forced. Won't say cheap, but along those lines.

The best twists are the ones you can look back and say, 'I should have seen that!' This was not that at all. It was kinda forced.

But that could just be me.

As I mentioned, I didn't think it was horrible. It didn't turn me off, and I still thought season two was the best. I was just disappointed with the resolution of the flash forwards.

[Brewmaster]

I was not a big fan of season 2 and the plane crash twist. It was one of the few parts of the series that felt like the writers dropped the ball. They painted themselves into a corner with the flash forwards and the resolution really had nothing to do with the characters or storyline of the series. I also felt like there were some painful episodes where nearly every character was unlikeable. Season 3 is where the series really took off in my opinion.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Brewmaster

I was not a big fan of season 2 and the plane crash twist. It was one of the few parts of the series that felt like the writers dropped the ball. They painted themselves into a corner with the flash forwards and the resolution really had nothing to do with the characters or storyline of the series. I also felt like there were some painful episodes where nearly every character was unlikeable. Season 3 is where the series really took off in my opinion.

What are you talking about? How did they a) drop the ball; and b) paint themselves into a corner?

Also, it was Jesse's girlfiend's father who caused the plane crash....how did that have nothing to do with the characters?

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

What are you talking about? How did they a) drop the ball; and b) paint themselves into a corner?

Also, it was Jesse's girlfiend's father who caused the plane crash....how did that have nothing to do with the characters?

Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't write off the whole season because of that. I think it shows the wider extent of the damage that Walt was causing / contributing to by making meth. It's not just Walt happily cooking meth, without it having real consequences on other people.

I think Vince was trying to get at how wide reaching it is and how it impacts a lot of people. Walt shouldn't be portrayed as innocent in all of this, just because he wasn't some front line pusher or dealer.

[Erick Estrada]

I kind of feel the series has gone downhill post Gus. It's still okay but a lot of boring episodes IMO and not as amped up as it was in seasons 3 & 4. It's just not as fun when Walt is the villain.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't write off the whole season because of that. I think it shows the wider extent of the damage that Walt was causing / contributing to by making meth. It's not just Walt happily cooking meth, without it having real consequences on other people.

I think Vince was trying to get at how wide reaching it is and how it impacts a lot of people. Walt shouldn't be portrayed as innocent in all of this, just because he wasn't some front line pusher or dealer.

That was the exact purpose of that. Kill Krazy-8, Tuco, whatever. Even Jane...she was a junkie probably was going to die anyway.

It was arguably the first time the audience was told... this is a bad dude whose actions have consequences that hurt actual people.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I kind of feel the series has gone downhill post Gus. It's still okay but a lot of boring episodes IMO and not as amped up as it was in seasons 3 & 4. It's just not as fun when Walt is the villain.

This series earns its payoffs. Sometimes there has to be a slow burn in order for the payoff to mean something. True Blood, for example, is a show that is complete garbage and never earns anything. Cliffhangers are resolved in two seconds the following week, characters act out of character all the time to satisfy driving whatever stupid plot point they are thinking about that week.

I'm not sure what you've found boring so far anyway (i.e. specific examples.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

This series earns its payoffs. Sometimes there has to be a slow burn in order for the payoff to mean something. True Blood, for example, is a show that is complete garbage and never earns anything. Cliffhangers are resolved in two seconds the following week, characters act out of character all the time to satisfy driving whatever stupid plot point they are thinking about that week.

I'm not sure what you've found boring so far anyway (i.e. specific examples.

Skyler has been beyond annoying all season and Jesse feeling sorry for himself it getting played out as well. The show was always best when Walter and Jessie were making meth and now the show is kind of slow as we know Hank has caught on and it's a matter of when he will arrest Walt. I think the last episode was a good one but like I said before Gus was such a good villain that there is a massive void in the show without him kind of like how Dexter has never been as good since season 4 and Arthur Mitchell.