[News] With the #22 overall pick the Flames select LW/RW Emile Poirier

[Hanna Sniper]

I feel bad for Shinkaruk. He's probably going to be compared to Poirier for the rest of his career, at least here in Calgary.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

I feel bad for Poirier. He's probably going to be compared to Shinkaruk for the rest of his career, at least here in Calgary.

i would hope he uses all this "off the board pick", "picked too early" talk as another motivational tool to prove himself and prove that team wasn't wrong in picking him where he did.

Same thing for Jankowski last year.

1st round pick in the NHL, i don't feel "feeling bad" is in order

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Hanna Sniper

I feel bad for Shinkaruk. He's probably going to be compared to Poirier for the rest of his career, at least here in Calgary.

well played.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

I feel bad for Poirier. He's probably going to be compared to Shinkaruk for the rest of his career, at least here in Calgary.

Meh that happens in all drafts. People still rag on us for taking Kidd instead of Brodeur when Kidd was ranked the better player at the time. It's up to the players themselves to put in the work ethic to become successful and lets hope Poirier has that drive to show that Feaster made the right choice.

[-___-]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Meh that happens in all drafts. People still rag on us for taking Kidd instead of Brodeur when Kidd was ranked the better player at the time. It's up to the players themselves to put in the work ethic to become successful and lets hope Poirier has that drive to show that Feaster made the right choice.

Exactly the draft is a crapshoot, it's close to impossible to predict how good an 18 year olds career will be.

[bubbsy]

is there another board for such groupthink?

[Stampede2TheCup]

Originally Posted by -___-

I've seen Shinkaruk play and I can guarantee the Flames will regret not taking him. The Canucks really stole the show on draft day.

Originally Posted by -___-

Exactly the draft is a crapshoot, it's close to impossible to predict how good an 18 year olds career will be.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by blah blah

"Close to impossible", but not quite impossible. Guaranteed.

[Southside]

Originally Posted by the2bears

"close to impossible", but not quite impossible. Guaranteed.

lol

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Do you have some inside info as to what their plans were?

How do you Know that their plan did not consist of picking Mirco Mueller, Kerby Rychel, Anthony Mantha or Frederik Gauthier that just came off the board before the Flames pick.....


Maybe they panicked and said well that leaves us with the French kid meaning Fucale ( and not being sure if Fucale was French or Italian) and they got confused and picked Poirier instead.


We have no idea what the Flames plan was and if they stuck to it. My above scenario was all made up but it is as close to what we know about the Flames real plan we will get to find out before Feaster writes his memoirs in 20 years.


I have never heard a GM or organization step up after the draft and say that it was going too fast and we got mixed up with who was left and made the wrong pick.

As for sticking to a game plan .... nobody goes into a game planning to pull the goalie with a minute left..... however circumstances sometimes dictate that pulling the goalie does indeed become the best strategy for the situation.

Obviously you have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA who the Flames invited to their mini-combine. If you did, you would realize everything you wrote is complete gibberish.

[BloodFetish]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Do you have some inside info as to what their plans were?

How do you Know that their plan did not consist of picking Mirco Mueller, Kerby Rychel, Anthony Mantha or Frederik Gauthier that just came off the board before the Flames pick.....


Maybe they panicked and said well that leaves us with the French kid meaning Fucale ( and not being sure if Fucale was French or Italian) and they got confused and picked Poirier instead.


We have no idea what the Flames plan was and if they stuck to it. My above scenario was all made up but it is as close to what we know about the Flames real plan we will get to find out before Feaster writes his memoirs in 20 years.


I have never heard a GM or organization step up after the draft and say that it was going too fast and we got mixed up with who was left and made the wrong pick.

As for sticking to a game plan .... nobody goes into a game planning to pull the goalie with a minute left..... however circumstances sometimes dictate that pulling the goalie does indeed become the best strategy for the situation.

Seeing as they had customized name bars for both Poirier and Klimchuk it's safe to say they were both in the Flames plans. What we don't know is what other name bars they had at the table, or where they were ranked in their own internal list.

[OffsideSpecialist]

I have decided that I like Emile Poirier

[Madman]

Couple interesting tidbits of info relating to the #22 pick from the FAN this morning.

Jason Deforest @FAN960Jason
Cosentino likes #Flames pick Poirier: "If they hadn't taken him at 22, he wouldn't have been available at their next pick at 28."

Jason Deforest @FAN960Jason
Cosentino says big concerns on Shinkaruk: "There was a lot more risk in that pick than a lot of people would've noticed on the surface."

[terminator]

How did this kid do at camp?

[tempz]

Originally Posted by terminator

How did this kid do at camp?

Pretty well for his first camp IMO. He had flashes of brilliance showing his true potential. Few times he split the D really nicely, showed his speed on other opportunities. Based on the numbers he put up last year on a young squad I expect him to put up significantly better numbers this year.

[madmike]

Originally Posted by Madman

Couple interesting tidbits of info relating to the #22 pick from the FAN this morning.

Jason Deforest @FAN960Jason
Cosentino likes #Flames pick Poirier: "If they hadn't taken him at 22, he wouldn't have been available at their next pick at 28."

Jason Deforest @FAN960Jason
Cosentino says big concerns on Shinkaruk: "There was a lot more risk in that pick than a lot of people would've noticed on the surface."

Likely already been mentioned, but I went back and looked at Cosentino's mock draft on Sportsnet. The guy nailed all 3 of the Flames picks - except he had Klimchuk going at 22 and Poirier at 28. Pretty unreal.

I guess he has always been relatively high on Poirier.

[FAN]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

I have never heard a GM or organization step up after the draft and say that it was going too fast and we got mixed up with who was left and made the wrong pick.

That's because teams go to the draft prepared. They all have a master list containing the names of prospects that they have ranked that goes at least 30 deep. Its a matter of crossing off names and reading the name that is on top of the list that hasn't been crossed out. Most teams also try to predict how the draft will unfold so you might see teams deviate from their list of they think they can grab a player lower on the list later.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by tempz

Pretty well for his first camp IMO. He had flashes of brilliance showing his true potential. Few times he split the D really nicely, showed his speed on other opportunities. Based on the numbers he put up last year on a young squad I expect him to put up significantly better numbers this year.

He's not a long term project like Jankowski but he's probably going to play out his junior career and spend a season in the AHL. I don't think he's a player they are banking on coming into the lineup right away.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by madmike

Likely already been mentioned, but I went back and looked at Cosentino's mock draft on Sportsnet. The guy nailed all 3 of the Flames picks - except he had Klimchuk going at 22 and Poirier at 28. Pretty unreal.

I guess he has always been relatively high on Poirier.

I heard the interview and he kind of contradicted himself in that he loved the Poirier pick because he thinks he's a sleeper pick but he didn't like the Jankowski pick. There were lots of rumbles before the draft about Jankowski being a sleeper pick much more than Poirier.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I heard the interview and he kind of contradicted himself in that he loved the Poirier pick because he thinks he's a sleeper pick but he didn't like the Jankowski pick. There were lots of rumbles before the draft about Jankowski being a sleeper pick much more than Poirier.

I'm not sure if he contradicted himself. He said, given the Flames situation last year, the Flames probably shouldn't have gambled their only first rounder on a sleeper hit and went with a safer one. This year is different, because they could afford to use their other 2 firsts on a gamble since they already snagged Monahan.

I can see where he's coming from, but I can also see why Feaster gambled on Jankowski last year. The organization is so desperate for a top tier centre, you're not going to get one where the Flames drafted without gambling IMO. I really hope Janko proves the naysayers wrong.