Maybe it's just me but outside of Hossa who's the last big free agent signing that lived up to the hype? These massive contracts scare the hell out of me, look at Richards as an example.
It's how you get some of the best skiing in the world. Although that probably doesn't attract NHL free agents, since they're working during ski season.
Once our team looks like it'll start making the playoffs again in 3 or 4 years, you'll probably start attracting free agents looking for a payday or chance to play in a top 6 position.
In the meantime we just need to keep our mouths shut. Unlike Edmonton who makes a habit of publicly trashing their potential signees, and thereby polluting the well.
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Maybe it's just me but outside of Hossa who's the last big free agent signing that lived up to the hype? These massive contracts scare the hell out of me, look at Richards as an example.
Chara and Hossa are the only ones IMO. Savard too I guess
For the average UFA the Flames wouldn't have a lot of appeal, but let's face it - the Flames aren't really looking for older UFAs right now anyway.
For young, relatively unproven UFAs the Flames would hold a lot of appeal - like the Oilers did for Schultz - because there are more NHL opportunities available than on most teams.
I think it's actually a good position for the team to be in.
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Maybe it's just me but outside of Hossa who's the last big free agent signing that lived up to the hype? These massive contracts scare the hell out of me, look at Richards as an example.
Ryan Suter was pretty good last year. But I agree with your point absolutely.
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so unless we know him personally, T.O. is his residence. Living in BC for a few years doesnt constitute you as being Western Canadian
List is flawed. They say winnipeg just doesn't have the populatiin yet it list Detroit at #11???? I would rather live in the peg the the slums of Detroit. Detroit's population has been dropping for years due to there being no jobs. I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers where close. And yes I know the wings are an original six blah blah
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so unless we know him personally, T.O. is his residence. Living in BC for a few years doesnt constitute you as being Western Canadian
Do I count as being Western Canadian then? Born in Calgary and lived there for 23 years. Or have I been cast out because my twitter handle lists my current residence?
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I guess being a top free agent destination is "cool" and can improve your chances at winning a cup however a lot of the teams who have won cups recently have built their rosters mostly through drafting and trading.
Chicago, L.A. and Boston have all built the bulk of their teams through drafting and development, and a few good trades here and there. However I can't really think of one big named free agent that put either team over the top except for Hossa.
L.A. Got Richards and Carter through trade. Kopitar, Brown, Quick, Doughty, Voynov all drafted. Scuderi was a UFA signing.
Chicago got Sharp through trade. Obviously drafted Toews, Kane, Keith, Seabrook, Bolland, etc
Anyways you see where I am going.
Being a UFA destination recently hasn't had much bearing on Stanley Cup success.
Off the top of my head, the only real impact UFAs I can think of in the past several years are Chara, Pronger, and Neidermeyer, but they are more of an exception rather than the rule.
List is flawed. They say winnipeg just doesn't have the populatiin yet it list Detroit and the #11???? I would rather live in the peg the the slums of Detroit. Detroit's population has been dropping for years due ti no jobs. I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers where close. And yes I know the wings are an original six blah blah
Except that the population of Metro Detroit, the area that actually matters, is approximately 6x that of Winnipeg. It's also home to a number of relatively wealthy suburbs.
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so unless we know him personally, T.O. is his residence. Living in BC for a few years doesnt constitute you as being Western Canadian
He describes himself in the article as a BC Boy.
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8. Vancouver Canucks
I’m a BC boy, so maaaybe my bias has seeped in a bit here
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I'm curious to know what you know about citizenships if you are dealing with customers outside of the States, which sounds like you are in the private sector to begin with. Has your business ever been impacted by people not getting citizenship because the weather in the U.S. is better than others?
Please explain to the rest of us your logic - I think I can safely I'm at most confused and at minimum curious how this makes sense.
Work for an american company actually but it seems my original post has completely flown over your head. The US doesn't let people in because they have enough people and have employment issues as is. Canada offers a very similar lifestyle but over a hundred years the US has amassed a much larger population and that's largely attributed to a more agreeable climate. Of course there are other reasons if you go back to colonization like the British hold over Canada etc. but humans tend to gravitate to mild climates. There's a reason that the majority of the world's population lives on the same lattitude plane just north of the equator and it's because that's where climates are most agreeable to more species of animals, vegetation, etc.
List is flawed. They say winnipeg just doesn't have the populatiin yet it list Detroit and the #11???? I would rather live in the peg the the slums of Detroit. Detroit's population has been dropping for years due ti no jobs. I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers where close. And yes I know the wings are an original six blah blah
Personally, I like Detroit. The downtown has a lot of character and really cool buildings. It's true that the crime rate is high though and there are some really scummy areas. At the same time though, some of the outlying communities around Detroit are really nice. They have some suburban areas that Winnipeg can't compare too. When all those rich people were leaving central Detroit, a lot of them didn't go too far.
Granted, I have never lived there, but I feel like it gets a bad rap.
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So why is it that until very recently US population was concentrated largely in areas with comparable climates to Canada?
There isn't a US city outside of Alaska with a comparable climate to say Calgary. Sure NY gets snow but it melts fast and there's no such thing as a -25 cold spell. It's nowhere near comparable unless you are talking Toronto but even Toronto is colder in the winter than almost every US major city. I've been in Minneapolis, Pittsburgh in January and it's been very cold but the cold months actually end in March and it gets hot until next November.
US immigration has all the bureaucracy they do because they have the biggest companies in the world, and people see opportunities for career here. If it was all about weather, you'd see American's fleeing to Mexico and not the other way around. Really has nothing to do with weather.
Moderate weather is nice though.
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I don't argue that Calgary is currently in anyway desirable for an established player getting equal offers but there is a TON of places I'd put behind it.
Columbus and Winnipeg are both more messed up than us and no more attractive as cities. Also, he seems to take fan passion into account for everyone else but not us?
And then I saw this: "I'm a BC boy" and realized he can go straight to effin' hell with his stupid list.
There isn't a US city outside of Alaska with a comparable climate to say Calgary. Sure NY gets snow but it melts fast and there's no such thing as a -25 cold spell. It's nowhere near comparable unless you are talking Toronto but even Toronto is colder in the winter than almost every US major city. I've been in Minneapolis, Pittsburgh in January and it's been very cold but the cold months actually end in March and it gets hot until next November.
Never been to Chicago huh? Detroit? Buffalo? Cleveland? Should I keep going? Having lived in Michigan I can tell you that the winters are just as bad, if not worse, than they are in Calgary.
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