Flames Development Camp July 10th - 16th

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by AC

Pretty full now.

Made eye contact with Kristen Hallett and she smiled, my life is complete.

She and I arrived at the rink at the same time, I was actually driving beside her down 16th. That girl plays with her hair, a lot. lol She's also still got Manitoba plates, gotta get on that, Ms Hallet.

When we got there, we came in, and I introduced her to my kids while we took the elevator together. Lemme tell ya.... she looks even better in person.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Red John

Central scouting had him 112th in North American skaters - probably slots him around 180-200th overall if not worse.

Who do you consider "most scouts"? Waiting to see your evidence.

I would consider a scout to be someone that watched the guy play and didn't judge him to be the worst player in the WHL. Kanzig played against some very talented players today, and from all accounts he did VERY well. Certainly doesn't sound like someone who was the worst player in the WHL last year.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Azure

I would consider a scout to be someone that watched the guy play and didn't judge him to be the worst player in the WHL. Kanzig played against some very talented players today, and from all accounts he did VERY well. Certainly doesn't sound like someone who was the worst player in the WHL last year.

i agree- if he was the worst player in the WHL, the he saved his absolute best for today cuz he was awesome!

[Azure]

Here is my evidence that Kanzig was ranked #90 by most scouts. Obviously not talking about NHL teams, because we clearly have no access to that data.

The sources for the consensus list are Bob McKenzie, Future Considerations, ISS, The Hockey News, Craig Button, Corey Pronman of Hockey Prospectus, and The Scouting Report. Their rankings are weight by their accuracy in ranking previous drafts: Bob McKenzie's rankings carry the most weight as he's the most accurate prognosticator in the group.

90 D Keegan Kanzig 6'5, 200 Victorial Royals -18 -48

Puts him right at the end of the 3rd round.

http://nhlnumbers.com/2013/6/26/2013...rankings-final

[Justin]

If Gaudreau had been 6'1 at the 2011 draft, he would of been a top 3 pick.

How sweet would if be if he panned out to be a Claude Giroux type guy. Small when he was drafted, grows a couple inches, packs on some muscle, and controls games.

Fingers Crossed.

[BigDogg]

Originally Posted by Red John

He was one of the worst players in the WHL.

That's a bit of a stretch...

[4oh3]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

Don't bother feeding the troll, his join date is this month. Obviously just one of the HFOilers rejects who is so selfconscious about his own crappy team he needs to come here to try and feel better.

Yeah I am from calgary not an oilers fan and I'm not a troll people on the Internet always get so mouthy on the Internet I didn't know much about gaudreau I heard his name being said and the data that came up was 5"6 140 if someone that size played on the nhl right now they would get destroyed I didn't know he grew and I guess it's an arrogant comment but I honestly had no idea so relax

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

She and I arrived at the rink at the same time, I was actually driving beside her down 16th. That girl plays with her hair, a lot. lol She's also still got Manitoba plates, gotta get on that, Ms Hallet.

When we got there, we came in, and I introduced her to my kids while we took the elevator together. Lemme tell ya.... she looks even better in person.

[darthma]

Glad that people are keen on Kanzig. But did everyone miss the play where he got beat on the inside by hanowski, subsequently grabbed the him and hanowski got a penalty shot? It didn't result in a goal but he got beat badly. Like babchuk bad.

Not trying to rain on the parade but trying to temper.expectations. kanzig really is a work in progress. Exciting regardless.

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

Horak was doing a lot of good things away from the puck, watching him take the body on Sieloff was surprising.

If I could add to that, I was shocked by his physical play. He got into it with someone right on the glass close to where I was and ended up with him getting a stick to the head and just shook it off and went after the guy more.

One HUGE thing I noticed though was Horak seemed to be stepping up as a leader with Group A. One of the firsts on the ice for warm-ups, he was being extremely vocal giving the guys directions and getting them set up and he was running the final drill at the end of warm-ups.

While his game itself wasn't one of his better ones for looking flashy, he seems to be stepping up in other ways and just rounding himself out as a player.

And holy cripes is Berra and Kanzig just towers. First goalie where the pads don't look proportional to his body. I will admit, I have some Berra love right now just on size alone.

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

Sshhhhh, don't tell my wife!

[StrykerSteve]

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[Azure]

Kanzig is one of the youngest guys at the camp playing against far more experienced and talented players. We all know he is still years away from being NHL ready, should he ever even get to that point.

What amazes us is that despite all that he has been remarkably good. Almost all the posters that were there mentioned something positive about Kanzig. Yes, he is big, yes you notice him because of his size....but he was getting a lot of positive comments about his skating, positioning, hockey smarts, leadership, etc, etc.

Again, doesn't sound like someone that was one of the worst players in the WHL last year.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

She and I arrived at the rink at the same time, I was actually driving beside her down 16th. That girl plays with her hair, a lot. lol She's also still got Manitoba plates, gotta get on that, Ms Hallet.

When we got there, we came in, and I introduced her to my kids while we took the elevator together. Lemme tell ya.... she looks even better in person.

Agreed. i usually think she's not bad, but today-DAMN. i got distracted by her a few times, once when she was ballet dancing on the sidelines there for a few seconds.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by 4oh3

Yeah I am from calgary not an oilers fan and I'm not a troll people on the Internet always get so mouthy on the Internet I didn't know much about gaudreau I heard his name being said and the data that came up was 5"6 140 if someone that size played on the nhl right now they would get destroyed I didn't know he grew and I guess it's an arrogant comment but I honestly had no idea so relax

There's a Spinal Tap joke in there somewhere. Also, there's more to punctuation than just apostrophes and quotations.

[Bingo]

Agree with most takes I read above ...

Loved Monahan today after not being all that impressed with his ice session on Thursday. Gaudreau was great again.

Thought Ferland took a step back today which was too bad, more of that laziness again.

The two plugger guys that haven't been mentioned (that I've seen) are Eddy and Elson, loved both of their games today, they really got in and on the less experienced red "D" and caused havoc. Elson especially has sand paper written all over him. I could see him carving a place down the road.

Was thinking like many that Baertschi wasn't doing much early and wondered how much of that was rust, and how much was a deeper prospect pool. Was pleased to see him turn it on.

My first viewing of Jankowski and came away unimpressed. Clearly looks physically bigger than last summer but he just didn't create anything when he was on the ice.

Agostino didn't do much either which was a shame after reading all the good comments from you guys this week. He got rocked on his first shift though and wonder if he was banged up.

[MissTeeks]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

He's still here? He was supposed to be at Ranchman's on Wedneday. Looks like I'll be doing some stalking tonight!

[kn]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

He's still here? He was supposed to be at Ranchman's on Wedneday. Looks like I'll be doing some stalking tonight!

Why is he in Calgary?

[Francis's Hairpiece]

Originally Posted by darthma

Glad that people are keen on Kanzig. But did everyone miss the play where he got beat on the inside by hanowski, subsequently grabbed the him and hanowski got a penalty shot? It didn't result in a goal but he got beat badly. Like babchuk bad.

Not trying to rain on the parade but trying to temper.expectations. kanzig really is a work in progress. Exciting regardless.

I think the amount of praise heaped on this kid is that most on here had no idea who this kid was when he was taken in the 3rd round, and a some who claimed to actually have seen him play gave horrifying reviews of his game, which scared most into thinking Kanzig was a huge reach and almost a waste of a pick in the third.

Nobody expected much, and that there seems to be an upside with lots of raw potential in the works has people excited. I myself, based on other posters reports on draft day, had imagined a monster guy who skated like the guy from the movie "Goon". I'm pleasantly surprised that's not the case, but understand there is lots of work to do before he makes it.

[Homeslice]

I was most surprised by Kanzig - skated much better and faster than I was expecting (though I was expecting pylon-ish speed).

Positionally-sound except on that one play he was beat wide by Hanowski, but impressive none-the-less. And he was crunching lots of bodies along the boards. I went to see Gaudreau, Sven, Mono and Janko, but was most impressed by Kanzig.

On a side note, that handi-capped person was making some awesome play-by-plays..."STOPPED BY BERRA!! AGAIN!!"