06-29-2013, 04:38 PM
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#141
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No one is panicking. People are expressing a reaction to the thought of trading six.
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06-29-2013, 04:41 PM
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#142
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Originally Posted by trackercowe
Or maybe it's simply because they already have Bergeron/Krejci as their number 1/2 center, and have no room for Seguin on the team; especially when he gets a significant raise next season (Taylor Hall type of contract). Bruins are also in a win now mode, and does it make sense for them to wait a few years until Seguin hits his peak?
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Cap space is not reason enough to trade away a 21-year-old 2nd overall pick. The idea that there's no room for a future first line center does not sound convincing to me.
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06-29-2013, 04:44 PM
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#143
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Originally Posted by trackercowe
Or maybe it's simply because they already have Bergeron/Krejci as their number 1/2 center, and have no room for Seguin on the team; especially when he gets a significant raise next season (Taylor Hall type of contract). Bruins are also in a win now mode, and does it make sense for them to wait a few years until Seguin hits his peak?
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You just illustrated his point.
The bruins, if they are dangling seguin, probably feel he will not displace either Bergeron or krejci at the centre ice position, and they already have a 5 million dollar winger in lucic and a 4.5 million dollar winger in Marchand, who already work with their top pivots.
Odd man out.
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06-29-2013, 04:44 PM
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#144
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Originally Posted by Henry Fool
If Boston believed that Seguin was a surefire number one center, they wouldn't be trying to trade him. There has to be some doubt in their mind or they'd make room for him.
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Not entirely true. Seguin has the highest cap hit and can probably get the highest return as well. Right now I think the thinking in Boston is that they would rather have the money to keep Bergeron, Rask, Seidenberg, Krejci, Boychuck and Hamilton in the next two years rather then be tied down with Seguin
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06-29-2013, 04:46 PM
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06-29-2013, 04:47 PM
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Look, if Boston really thought Seguin projected as a franchise C, they would do whatever was necessary to keep him. Either he is not that good or he is physically broken.
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06-29-2013, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler
Look, if Boston really thought Seguin projected as a franchise C, they would do whatever was necessary to keep him. Either he is not that good or he is physically broken.
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To counter, Krecji and Bergeron > Seguin for the Bruins. I don't blame the Bruins at all for prioritizing those two over Seguin. But that's not to say Seguin isn't a true number one Center. Most think he will be.
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06-29-2013, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DropIt
Not entirely true. Seguin has the highest cap hit and can probably get the highest return as well. Right now I think the thinking in Boston is that they would rather have the money to keep Bergeron, Rask, Seidenberg, Krejci, Boychuck and Hamilton in the next two years rather then be tied down with Seguin
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Yes, but the question is, why would they rather have all those players than Seguin who is supposed to become a better player? First line center is the last piece any team would trade away. To me it seems that they must suspect that he might not reach his full potential.
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06-29-2013, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dammage79
To counter, Krecji and Bergeron > Seguin for the Bruins. I don't blame the Bruins at all for prioritizing those two over Seguin. But that's not to say Seguin isn't a true number one Center. Most think he will be.
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Again, you don't trade 21 year-old franchise centers. Mind you, Boston has.  Still, there has to be something wrong.
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06-29-2013, 04:53 PM
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#150
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Thats why you have physicals before a trade is completed!
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06-29-2013, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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06-29-2013, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Table 5
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Who would the Flyers have offered anyhow?
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06-29-2013, 04:57 PM
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#153
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
No one is panicking. People are expressing a reaction to the thought of trading six.
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You must be reading a different thread.
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06-29-2013, 04:59 PM
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#154
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Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan
Who would the Flyers have offered anyhow?
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Coburn, Read, the 11th... in other words, nothing that enticing.
If they were offering Couturier and the 11th for Horak and the 6th, that's different story.
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06-29-2013, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan
Who would the Flyers have offered anyhow?
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On the ever reliable twitter it was Coburn and Read and maybe a pick.
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06-29-2013, 05:04 PM
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#156
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler
Look, if Boston really thought Seguin projected as a franchise C, they would do whatever was necessary to keep him. Either he is not that good or he is physically broken.
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They traded Thorton for cap reasons and such. Past shows Boston ahs traded away an elite center before who had proven more.
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06-29-2013, 05:10 PM
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#157
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Anything from Shannon's yap is wrong
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06-29-2013, 05:13 PM
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#158
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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I would trade 6 for Seguin straight up but my guess the cost would be 6, Gaudreau, + and that is not worth it. I really want Monahan anyway. I hope we keep the pick
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06-29-2013, 05:17 PM
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#159
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
No one is panicking. People are over-reacting to the thought of trading six.
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FYP.
Honestly if the Flames can package Gaudreau, the 6th + for Seguin + they have to do it. It would be the first time in a long time they, possibly, sold high on a prospect.
We watched the Flames try to find a center for Iggy for so many years. Seguin will be a top center in this league for many years and having Baertschi being almost the same age, they could be Calgary's top duo for the next 10-15 years.
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06-29-2013, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeMc
On the ever reliable twitter it was Coburn and Read and maybe a pick.
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If Philly ever trades Read for what they seem to have him valued at Holmgren will have made up for that Bryzgalov blunder.
Really though since Forsberg in 91, the #6 pick has been pretty underwhelming in a lot of drafts. No way I'd trade it for this return as it doesn't get the Flames where they need to be. But a team like the Oilers could really use a Dman like Coburn.
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