Fair enough. I don't disagree that it's probably the right thing to do, but I'm ok with trading 1 pick and maybe a prospect for a guy that can a piece to build around. I'm not sure Seguin is that guy, but if you can get an elite player (unlikely I know), then you should try without giving up too much of the future. I could stomach losing the #6 pick for a true #1 center.
Well the question has to be asked if Seguin is a true #1 center. He's got a lot of money coming his way in the next six years. I'm not sure if he's better than Monahan or Lindholm for this franchise when you consider where this team is at currently and the money Seguin already is under contract for.
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As I said in another thread awhile back, I am choosing to listen to very little that Feaster says / sources come out with and simply judging by what actually transpires at the draft and this summer.
That said, I sincerely hope the organization has more patience than signs would indicate.
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What current NHL players would you accept in exchange for #6?
Obviously Crosby, Tavares, Stamkos, etc...but what player would you accept where the exchange would be at least halfass equitable for both teams?
Couture?
Hedman?
Seguin?
Hamilton?
I don't think CGY gets any of those guys straight across...so what players are on the tier below them?
They are all fine talent wise, but I really want the Flames to build a core of players they actually drafted. The other thing is that they have used up part of their free agency free parts of their career and either will be getting or have large contracts already.
To not draft a centre with #6 or higher would be a disappointment to me this year.
They are all fine talent wise, but I really want the Flames to build a core of players they actually drafted. The other thing is that they have used up part of their free agency free parts of their career and either will be getting or have large contracts already.
To not draft a centre with #6 or higher would be a disappointment to me this year.
Who drafts the player is irrelevant, to me... Kipper and Iggy weren't drafted by the Flames...either was Regehr, Lanny, Gilmour, etc...no complaints there.
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Who drafts the player is irrelevant, to me... Kipper and Iggy weren't drafted by the Flames...either was Regehr, Lanny, Gilmour, etc...no complaints there.
I'm not suggesting never picking up someone not drafted by our team, obviously.
Right now we are starting from pretty much ground zero and should be acquiring as many assets that will spend as long as possible with our team. If we were somewhere else on the development curve, trading for those players would be a good idea.
Edmonton is honestly in the place that they should try trading their 7th for players like you listed as they should/need to start winning soon.
Seguin is a solid two-way center capable up putting up 70-90 points each season for the next ten+ years. If that's not a first line center, then I don't know who is. He's only 21 years old (thanks MMF), and has been a bit sheltered playing in Boston behind other great centers. I doubt Boston really wants to trade him, but have to because of cap issues, and possibly depth issues. Seguin pretty much fell into their laps, and they really didn't plan on having the opportunity to draft him.
If he came to Calgary he'd instantly become our best player today, and player with the most potential we've possibly ever had. There's a reason he was taken second overall, and many thought he should gave gone first.
He only had a so so playoffs, but he spent most of his time playing on the third line, so it shouldn't come as a major surprise that his numbers were down. That won't be an issue in Calgary, where he could get first line minutes (and play on the PP/PK).
He was on pace for about 65 points this year, led the league in +/- a couple seasons ago (+34), and was +23 this year. Not putting a ton of credence in plus/minus, but he is most certainly very solid defensively.
Not saying we should trade our entire prospect base for Seguin, but if there is ONE player Feaster should be after it hopefully will be Tyler Seguin (not Matt Read, Coburn, Letang, or Schneider).
Just wonder was Weisbrod still with Boston when Seguin was drafted? If so he might have scouted Tyler, and has a link to him.
Holy over reaction guys. Not every player drafted turns out to be Crosby, Ovechkin, or Pronger. Some of you subscribe to TSN's draft day hype way too much. The reality is, out of Monahan, Lindholm and Nichushkin, one of them might become a first liner, one might become a half decent second liner and the other will probably not make the NHL. A lot of you forget that the draft is still a crap shoot. If you can trade a first round pick for a young NHL centre or defenceman that you can build your franchise around, you absolutely take that opportunity and run. If this rumor is true, I like it a lot.
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If Boston believed that Seguin was a surefire number one center, they wouldn't be trying to trade him. There has to be some doubt in their mind or they'd make room for him.
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Holy over reaction guys. Not every player drafted turns out to be Crosby, Ovechkin, or Pronger. Some of you subscribe to TSN's draft day hype way too much. The reality is, out of Monahan, Lindholm and Nichushkin, one of them might become a first liner, one might become a half decent second liner and the other will probably not make the NHL. A lot of you forget that the draft is still a crap shoot. If you can trade a first round pick for a young NHL centre or defenceman that you can build your franchise around, you absolutely take that opportunity and run. If this rumor is true, I like it a lot.
Tell that to Chicago
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I think we all need to stop panicking and just wait and see what happens before we jump off the cliff. I'm nervous too, but I'm not gonna judge Feaster and company until after Sunday. Right now this is nothing but rumors and heresay.
If Boston believed that Seguin was a surefire number one center, they wouldn't be trying to trade him. There has to be some doubt in their mind or they'd make room for him.
Or maybe it's simply because they already have Bergeron/Krejci as their number 1/2 center, and have no room for Seguin on the team; especially when he gets a significant raise next season (Taylor Hall type of contract). Bruins are also in a win now mode, and does it make sense for them to wait a few years until Seguin hits his peak?
