[News] Jay Feaster adddresses the media

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Boy you guys would hate most of the GM's in the league then. Poile has said they have Jones #1. Sakic has said they'll take MacKinnon. They should bloody shut their mouths shouldn't they?

Do you care to explain how his opening his mouth and answering some reporter's questions negatively affects the Flames? Bogus claim so far IMO and worthy of being dismissed as wildly irrational.

Telling a GM he should shut up when he's doing a standard media availability is completely irrational. It's part of his job to answer media questions and furthermore they are doing this media specifically for hardcore fans like us.

Fans want to know what's going on with the Flames. Feaster is fairly open and honest. Everybody tells him to not say anything. You can't have it both ways. Clearly some posters want total silence. And even then you know they'd be whining about Feaster not doing anything lol. It is comical what some of you expect of Feaster.

Wow. Well you're right about one thing... someone is freaking out.

Go ahead and put words in my mouth to try and make an argument. I am pretty sure I never said I want total silence.

As one poster said, Sutter didn't talk enough and Feaster talks too much. I think that holds some truth.

If you are incapable of seeing the difference between talking too much and total silence, well good luck to you.

Of course Feaster has to have press conferences and answer questions. But in my opinion, he would be better off if he said a little less. It is a cumulative viewpoint that I have, based on three years of evidence. You are free to disagree.

Bu I would suggest you maybe back away from the keyboard and have a beer.

[FAN]

Anyone concerned about Feaster's expectation of the #6 overall pick? Weisbrod has said that he doesn't put any stock in a player's ability to play next season and doesn't actually think too many 18-19 year olds contribute much most of the time, while Feaster keeps talking about there being players available at #6 who can step in and play in the NHL next season.

[nik-]

I think they have playing next year as a value but that it's very low on the totem pole.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by FAN

Anyone concerned about Feaster's expectation of the #6 overall pick? Weisbrod has said that he doesn't put any stock in a player's ability to play next season and doesn't actually think too many 18-19 year olds contribute much most of the time, while Feaster keeps talking about there being players available at #6 who can step in and play in the NHL next season.

Did you watch the media availability? He clarified that.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by FAN

Anyone concerned about Feaster's expectation of the #6 overall pick? Weisbrod has said that he doesn't put any stock in a player's ability to play next season and doesn't actually think too many 18-19 year olds contribute much most of the time, while Feaster keeps talking about there being players available at #6 who can step in and play in the NHL next season.

I just noticed that while listening to his interview on the fan.

Strangely incongruent statements from two guys that have been sharing a room 12 host a day. I'd expect them to be on the same page.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Go ahead and put words in my mouth to try and make an argument. I am pretty sure I never said I want total silence.

As one poster said, Sutter didn't talk enough and Feaster talks too much. I think that holds some truth.

If you are incapable of seeing the difference between talking too much and total silence, well good luck to you.

Of course Feaster has to have press conferences and answer questions. But in my opinion, he would be better off if he said a little less. It is a cumulative viewpoint that I have, based on three years of evidence. You are free to disagree.

Well I'm not sure what this meant then...

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Feaster: STFU!!

You want the GM to Shut the F Up. And you didn't say it particularly nicely either. If you had left it at, "he should say less" that would've been something else. But I'm not putting words in your mouth and you are asking for a lot of silence when you say Feaster STFU!!

You still have not strongly backed up your claim that he should talk less. Why is this important?

Some people seem to think he gives away our position which I think is a laughable claim since he's saying far more to the actual GM's. Some people think he sets up expectations with fans, perhaps that is a more valid reason.

But so far I haven't seen a strong argument as to why he should say less or why he should STFU!! As a hardcore fan I'd like as much info from Feaster as possible. Telling him to shut the F up just seems rude and exactly the opposite of what hardcore fans want to hear.

Love to hear a strong take on why Feaster should say less. Until that point I will continue to say there was a lot of irrational responses to a very normal press conference. On what should be one of the most exciting weekends for a Flames fan in years or perhaps a decade we don't need to responding to a press conference by telling the GM to shut up. Obviously you disagree. Cheers.

[FlameZilla]

The thread should be retitled: Jay Feaster addresses the media too often.

[Johnny Rotten]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

The thread should be retitled: Jay Feaster addresses the media too often.

In fairness to him though, Darryl hardly ever addressed the media and was criticized for that.

Maybe this part of a culture change.

[FAN]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Some people seem to think he gives away our position which I think is a laughable claim since he's saying far more to the actual GM's. Some people think he sets up expectations with fans, perhaps that is a more valid reason.

You know I too am confused over why some people think that stating the obvious is somehow giving away your position. Feaster saying he wants to add a scorer at RW and a center isn't revealing his hand. Doesn't take a genius to know team needs. Question is at what price. Feaster saying he wants to move up in the draft isn't revealing his hand. Chances are they know the Flames want to move up or will have interest in moving up. Question is what price they are willing to pay. I remember some posters arguing that Mike Gillis saying he's looking to trade Luongo was a stupid thing to say as he's somehow just revealed his hand. Doesn't take a genius that the Canucks want to move Luongo. This isn't poker where people do bluff with week hands. Team needs are there for all to see. The question is what assets are available and what price will get the deal done?

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

The thread should be retitled: Jay Feaster addresses the media too often.

So you want him to stop holding standard media availability?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Well I'm not sure what this meant then...



You want the GM to Shut the F Up. And you didn't say it particularly nicely either. If you had left it at, "he should say less" that would've been something else. But I'm not putting words in your mouth and you are asking for a lot of silence when you say Feaster STFU!!

You still have not strongly backed up your claim that he should talk less. Why is this important?

Some people seem to think he gives away our position which I think is a laughable claim since he's saying far more to the actual GM's. Some people think he sets up expectations with fans, perhaps that is a more valid reason.

But so far I haven't seen a strong argument as to why he should say less or why he should STFU!! As a hardcore fan I'd like as much info from Feaster as possible. Telling him to shut the F up just seems rude and exactly the opposite of what hardcore fans want to hear.

Love to hear a strong take on why Feaster should say less. Until that point I will continue to say there was a lot of irrational responses to a very normal press conference. On what should be one of the most exciting weekends for a Flames fan in years or perhaps a decade we don't need to responding to a press conference by telling the GM to shut up. Obviously you disagree. Cheers.

It's an internet forum. Context and inflection are often lost or missed.

It was about the 100th time that someone was commenting that Feaster talks too much. I could have said "I would prefer if he talked less" but that would have been pretty boring. So I said "Feaster STFU" because I thought that would be a more entertaining way to say it.

Unfortunately, I wasn't aware that Feaster's mom was on CP and would become offended and turn this into the biggest crime in decades.

As for a strong argument as to why he should talk less, there has already been more than enough said. You don't see any of the views stated as valid, so I see no point in repeating them. You have your opinion and it is obviously a passionate one. Frankly this issue isn't that big to me.

Cheers.

[Freeway]

Since the season ended, Feaster's had three media availabilities - one at the year-end presser, one prior to leaving for the draft and one for the traveling media in Jersey yesterday.

If he had any more of them, he'd have literally nothing to talk about.

[doctajones428]

Even Roger Millions is sick of CP's crybabyism...

I like it

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

So you want him to stop holding standard media availability?

No, but I would prefer he kept his cards closer to his chest. Generally in sports franchises I admire the managers don't tip their cards nearly so much.

If he's as vocal and 'transparent' in trade negotiations as he is to the media he's never going to out-and-out 'win' a trade. Opposing GMs are going to know exactly what his intentions are from the word Go and are going to be able to milk maximum value out of us.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

I can't believe I'm going to wade into this abortion of a thread but...

I got so frustrated with the previous regime's ridiculous tight lipped nature. You literally never knew what was going on in Sutter's head. Every time he made a move the reaction was "Woah, didn't see that coming...Sutter's a genius!". Sutter was not a genius as we can see now, but the unexpected nature of the moves out of left field gave the appearance of that. But then he lost his mind and made crazy moves which really hurt the franchise, and when asked about things he would say nearly nothing as to the direction the team was going or what the freakin' plan was. I nearly lost my mind watching Sutter make move after move with no idea where it was all intended to end up.

Now we have a GM who not only talks, but can do so eloquently and give you a clear picture of what their intentions are and where they are headed. Sure, he has little catch phrases that drive everyone crazy, but that's like watching a trailer for a movie and assuming it's a bad movie without actually seeing the movie. Sound bytes don't really matter as much as having a clear vision and then openly communicating that vision with the fan base.

It's that communication that allows us as fans to feel like we are part of the decision making process. The problem with a knowledgable fan base getting all the details means that there will be thousands...literally thousands...of armchair GMs that think they can do it better than a man who has years and years of NHL GM experience. I happen to believe that if Feaster was really incompetent he wouldn't have been hired in the first place, let alone continue to run the franchise after several years out of the playoffs.

But for whatever reason, a large portion of us love the stoic clamshell tactics of Sutter, somehow believing that gave him a bigger advantage in negotiations with other GMs and free agents. I don't know what makes people think that's the case. Sutter didn't necessarily "win" a lot of trades or free agents, and Feaster has done marginally better so far. At least there were no Phaneuf fiascos so far under Feaster. Every move has been a calculated, or at least a calculated risk, to turn this franchise in the right direction. Sutter's abysmal prospect management and reactionary trades set us back for years, and only now are we truly understanding the impact of his tenure. Feaster is in a no-win situation, kinda similar to what Burke had to deal with in Toronto. And, of course, as soon as this management group decides to finally start doing what everyone has been asking, the natural reaction is "What are you doing? Who said to start jettisoning aging stars for whatever you can get and begin the rebuilding process!" The guy can't win with this fanbase.

So really, why are we getting so upset about him talking to us, trying to include us in the long, arduous process of rebuilding the franchise. Why are we upset with him relating his vision of the future and why are we so especially upset at a man stating flatly that there is no interest in the pieces that we all want him to move out? I for one want to know what the status is of everyone in the system. I want to know what expectations are for prospects. I want to know the envisioned roles for veterans. I want to know what to expect as a return for a player we are clearly trying to move.

I want to know all this because it makes watching a terrible on-ice product infinitely more bearable if you can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

I encourage Feaster to talk as much as possible with us.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

No, but I would prefer he kept his cards closer to his chest. Generally in sports franchises I admire the managers don't tip their cards nearly so much.

If he's as vocal and 'transparent' in trade negotiations as he is to the media he's never going to out-and-out 'win' a trade. Opposing GMs are going to know exactly what his intentions are from the word Go and are going to be able to milk maximum value out of us.

Do you really think anything said at a press conference is some kind of disclosure that other GMs listen to and take to heart? The NHL is like a big high school, and there's far more information being passed around behind the scenes. I doubt anything said in public is news to NHL brass.

[StrykerSteve]

The press conference in question is now online.

http://video.flames.nhl.com/videocen...261028&lang=en

[metroneck]

Well it could be worse... This guy is on the media a lot more here, and never says anything, dodges questions and it totally condescending.

If you want to feel the pain of others...

http://forum.canucks.com/topic/34714...1045-am-today/

[lifetimefan]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

At least there were no Phaneuf fiascos so far under Feaster.

There very well could have been.

If Feaster had landed Richards, we would be probably be looking at using one of the compliance buyouts for that contract right now. If not bought out, it would be a boat anchor for years to come, most likely well past Feaster's exit.

The ROR fiasco could have been much, much worse than it was, and potentially set back the rebuild by costing the Flames those picks and losing ROR to waivers. Feaster was lucky that the Avs did him a favour by matching.

Feaster is inept. It's been blind luck that he hasn't actually seen any of his blunders through.

[killer_carlson]

Im still in agreement with Feaster on the ROR interpretation, for what it is worth.

I think we would have won that one had it gone to arbitration.