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Old 06-17-2013, 09:02 AM   #341
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@RossCreekNation: Elliotte Friedman on 960 says he believes Colin Campbell is also in the running for the #Flames job
He said the Flames are looking for "a friend of Gary" or words to that effect. Not sure why the Flames need a Gary groupie....the Commish has little to do with hockey ops (unless it's rigging a draft pick or such rumoured events).

Sounds like 960 may replay the Elliotte Friedman piece again shortly - Boomer keeps saying this as it "had so much good stuff in it". (Accurate!)
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:16 AM   #342
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People can freak out all day about this, but the fact remains that both Shanahan and Campbell are upgrades to our current president of hockey operations, if only purely from a hockey knowledge standpoint.
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Think we forget that Campbell was actually pretty highly sought after in the past.

His run in the NHL offices probably has soured him to some people but that role is already doing the same to Shanahan after just two seasons.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:30 AM   #344
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Putin should get the job. If we can't win rings, he will steal them.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:34 AM   #345
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Friedman replay on NOW (9:34am) for those who missed it.
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I wish Scotty Bowman would take a chance on Canada.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:37 AM   #347
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Campbell??? Not sure how I feel about that.
What's the differnence from Campbell and Shanny?

If anything Campbell has done more than Shanny because he coached for many years after his playing days.

I think Philly and Toronto wanted him to be their GM in the past and Campbell turned them down.
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http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opin...nhl-draft.html

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3. As for the Flames' potential restructuring, it's not unusual for teams to make changes this late. For example, then-interim GM Jeff Gorton ran the 2006 draft for the Boston Bruins while Peter Chiarelli was trapped in limbo. Lightning GM Steve Yzerman took the job a month before the 2010 draft, but relied heavily on the organization's list for those picks. When Feaster was hired, Calgary was interested in Brendan Shanahan, so this is a legitimate pursuit.
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4. The biggest question at this time is "Do Shanahan or Colin Campbell want to move West?" Both have been tied to the East for family reasons. Also, what would this mean for Feaster, who has prepared to run this draft for months, or Craig Conroy, who, other teams believe, is being groomed for a major position in the future? The other issue will be transition. The Flames may be hiring someone who was not with a team, which means they haven't been a part of draft planning or professional scouting meetings. Therefore, it will be essential to have people around them that have been. The Flames cannot afford to make mistakes this summer.
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Thanks MissTeeks for the milionth time.

The article makes sense. No chance if a new hockey ops guy came in that it would change the way we draft. Not enough time to make those kind of changes.

If they wanted to let Feaster go before the draft it would be no loss. Feaster really has nothing to do with scouting and probably has very little say on the scouting reports. As far as i can tell the only job Feaster has to do for this draft is talk into the mic on the podium and talk to TSN.
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Campbell? Eff me. Apparently if you've been out of managing a team for awhile or have zero experience, the Flames are interested.
Might as well throw our hats in the ring
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I would gladly welcome the huge upgrade hockey IQ wise that would come with Shanny or Campbell over King. The timing so close to the draft is the only thing that concerns me.
I wouldn't want Feaster or King having the feeling they are dead man walking and being involved with our selections.
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Would likely stay the course for this draft and then post draft/FA have Shanny/Campbell make the management decisions.
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I would gladly welcome the huge upgrade hockey IQ wise that would come with Shanny or Campbell over King. The timing so close to the draft is the only thing that concerns me.
I wouldn't want Feaster or King having the feeling they are dead man walking and being involved with our selections.

I would presume the new hockey ops guy would be hired before the draft. I doubt Feaster would be allowed to do anything stupid to try and keep his job because the new hockey ops would be able to stop him. If anything this would probably mean that the flames would just take the picks where they lie unless a deal came in to good to pass up. I am scared that without a new hockey ops guy, that Feaster and KK will do something stupid in trading one of the latter picks for young NHL crap.
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I would presume the new hockey ops guy would be hired before the draft. I doubt Feaster would be allowed to do anything stupid to try and keep his job because the new hockey ops would be able to stop him. If anything this would probably mean that the flames would just take the picks where they lie unless a deal came in to good to pass up. I am scared that without a new hockey ops guy, that Feaster and KK will do something stupid in trading one of the latter picks for young NHL crap.
That is my fear as well. I would have preferred that if Edwards was looking in the Shanahan/Campbell direction it would have been completed 1 month ago.

I don't like the timing. Feaster better not screw up this 1st round especially.
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Any recaps of Friedman?
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I could probably name only 3-5 cities that have an NHL team that in my opinion would be more desirable to both love and work and be able to comfortable raise a family in.
You should visit more cities.

Especially to "love" in.
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Any recaps of Friedman?
Just the one from Wikipedia.

Elliotte Friedman (born September 27, 1970) is a Canadian sports journalist. He currently works on CBC Sports programmes including hosting and appearing on the Hockey Night in Canada segment The Headliner. Before joining CBC, Friedman worked for The Score network. He also reports weekly for Fan 590, where he began his broadcast career in 1994 and did play-by-play for Toronto Raptors games on both radio and television and reported on Toronto Blue Jays games in 1998. He did freelance for the London Free Press and the Toronto Star. He was awarded the Telemedia Reporter of the Year in 1996. He attended the University of Western Ontario but never graduated.
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That is my fear as well. I would have preferred that if Edwards was looking in the Shanahan/Campbell direction it would have been completed 1 month ago.

I don't like the timing. Feaster better not screw up this 1st round especially.
I think we all would have liked this done a month ago. There is a good chance that both Shanahan and Campbell told Edwards they were interested but they would not sit down with them until closer to the end of the playoffs.

The part that has me wondering is this quote:

"To add to this nonsense, Jay Feaster might be on the outs as well as the confidence from ownership is apparently pretty low."

I get that ownership would be low in confidence on Feaster, but i dont see what would have made them change their mind on him from the end of the season until now?

If they had soured on him by the end of the season, why did they just not let him go?

The only thing i can think of from souring on Feaster from the end of season until now is that Feaster guarnateed them that the flames would get MacKinnon by having 3 1st round picks. It looks highly unlikely that Feaster can get MacKinnon from either of the bottom 2 teams.
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As I've said before, Edwards wants to climb the ranks of the NHL inner/upper circle, taking over that mantle from Harley.

That's why front and centre in the CBA negotiations, and, from that experience directly, worked with Shanhan. I am sure Campbell wasn't far away, and obviously a pal of Bettman's. So it covers off guys that are widely respected and trusted in NHL circles, to be in those circles in the first place, and that gives Edwards some comfort in the hiring...especially if he sees some of the Flames' reputation taking a hit in those same circles, thanks to the results on the ice but more likely, the comedy of errors that were all too public last season in the upper management.

In addition to that, they are obviously good hockey guys, someone that Edwards could figure has that side of things covered (though each have a different level of experience) when it comes to the Flames' current heirarchy.

What about bringing in both of them?

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