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View Poll Results: Which C to choose?
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Lindholm
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Monahan
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Someone Else (Other C, Not a C, Etc)
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06-06-2013, 12:29 PM
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#901
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To be honest I don't think the Flames will be drafting sixth. Therefore chose Other.
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06-06-2013, 12:37 PM
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#902
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Dagger
Even before reading the above, I do think people get carried away with the difference in "intangibles" between Monahan and Lindholm. Lindholm may not be as good a bet as Monahan to become captain wherever he goes, but he's still going to be a player that's liked in the room and someone you want to look down the bench and see come April/May.
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Yeah, the only edge in character Monahan has over Lindholm is that some people ascribe value to his being Canadian. I haven't read anything that leads me to believe Monahan has anything outside of nationality over Lindholm in the intangibles department.
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06-06-2013, 01:40 PM
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#903
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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I would take Monahan over Lindholm and should Monahan be gone Lindholm over Nichushkin. But if Monahan is gone then that would mean some GM jumped early to get him and Barkov is likely still available.
I would look at 4-5 other players before i would even consider Nichushkin i am not convinced he will stay long with the Flames or any other lower team unless they have some kind of miracle turnaround season.
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06-08-2013, 01:05 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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I've changed my mind.
Put me on team Monahan. Apparently the best two-way center in the draft, bigger, canadian, already playing and excelling at north american game. Could be our ROR with more offensive upside. I like Lindholm a lot, but I see Feaster and Co. going in this direction for some of these reasons.
I still think there's about a 2 in 10 chance that Barkov falls to us, though. And in that case, it's a no brainer.
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06-13-2013, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
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I've been in the Monohancamp since day one, but if his ceiling is 2nd line centre, perhaps we should be looking elsewhere. If we're picking 6th in a deep, strong draft, let's get a #1 center.
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06-13-2013, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Francis's Hairpiece
I've been in the Monohancamp since day one, but if his ceiling is 2nd line centre, perhaps we should be looking elsewhere. If we're picking 6th in a deep, strong draft, let's get a #1 center.
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there's maybe only two clear cut #1 center's in the draft, Mack and Barkov. Monahan may be the next closest to being a #1 C. Having said that, the interviewee compared Monahan to Nieuwendyk, Trevor Linden and Logan Couture. If they aren't #1 C's, who is?
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06-13-2013, 02:28 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Perth Australia
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
there's maybe only two clear cut #1 center's in the draft, Mack and Barkov.
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Trade up to #4 and take Barkov!
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06-13-2013, 02:32 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Originally Posted by Miniac
Trade up to #4 and take Barkov!
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Would he be worth overpaying for?
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06-13-2013, 02:37 PM
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#910
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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This week I am more re-affirmed to the Lindholm side of things and even more sold on him being the guy the Flames need more than Barkov..... Yeah, more than Barkov!
I feel crazy for saying this. Why? Lindholm has all the essential tools the Flames need Grit, more speed than the other two projected available centers and Right handed. Why is that so important? Ability to play right wing if the Flames ever get over loaded at center. Another dimension in offense when loading up lines late in the game. The multi-purpose dimension to Lindholm makes me want the Flames to take him more than Monahan. Having a right handed face off guy also helps when trying to make set plays on one side of the ice or the other.
I feel though this has to be said at the end of every post in this thread when talking about these two, I won't be upset at all if they take Monahan though. And I have been on the Barkov bandwagon longer than I can remember. Next week will probably be different so who knows!
Last edited by dammage79; 06-13-2013 at 02:40 PM.
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06-13-2013, 02:38 PM
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Both players are much needed by the Flames. Linholm with the more of an offensive upside while Monahan is more defensive minded and I could see him eventually being a captain in the NHL. I hope the Flames decide to go with the player they MOST need. It's been toooooo long since the Flames had a chance to get such a talented player like Lindholm. They need his offensive abilities, take him over Monahan. But still wouldn't mind Monahan if Lindholm is gone cause what team doesn't want a player like him
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06-13-2013, 02:51 PM
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First Line Centre
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I have a feeling Carolina will pick Monahan at #5. The unknown for me is who Nashville picks, most likely Barkov...a very good chance Lindholm is available at #6. All depends on what happens with Nichushkin too, I can see him slide to #8 or 9...
I honestly don't know who I prefer between Monahan or Lindholm, I tend to lean toward Monahan since he's a good 2-way canadian C with size.
Last edited by Stanley; 06-13-2013 at 03:02 PM.
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06-13-2013, 03:17 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Count me in the Monohan camp now as well
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06-13-2013, 03:24 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Cheerio
Count me in the Monohan camp now as well
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He just seems to fit more the Flames' needs.
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06-13-2013, 05:55 PM
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I estimate there's a 25% chance that Barkov falls to us.
Nurse & Nichushkin could very well go top 5. No one would be surprised if either did. Monahan came into this season as a top 3 talent & his stock is on the rise. Lindholm is a coveted prospect & definitely in the top 5 discussion.
5 picks before us, 3 consensus top picks, and then a pool of 5 players who could go 3 through 8. Barkov, Lindholm, Monahan, Nurse & Nichushkin.
Does anyone actually think we should be desperate to move up in the draft?
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06-14-2013, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FlameZilla
I estimate there's a 25% chance that Barkov falls to us.
Nurse & Nichushkin could very well go top 5. No one would be surprised if either did. Monahan came into this season as a top 3 talent & his stock is on the rise. Lindholm is a coveted prospect & definitely in the top 5 discussion.
5 picks before us, 3 consensus top picks, and then a pool of 5 players who could go 3 through 8. Barkov, Lindholm, Monahan, Nurse & Nichushkin.
Does anyone actually think we should be desperate to move up in the draft?
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Maybe, but not from number 6 unless it is top 3
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06-14-2013, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
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During this discussion they call him the prototypical #2 center.  Do you want a guy with #2 center potential with our top pick? Seems you can get that later in the draft.
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06-14-2013, 08:47 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Originally Posted by New Era
During this discussion they call him the prototypical #2 center. Do you want a guy with #2 center potential with our top pick? Seems you can get that later in the draft. |
I think that comes with the territory when a prospect is well rounded but maybe lacks the elite skillset of the first tier prospects. That doesn't mean he won't be a solid #1 center. Besides every team needs a good #2 center so if that's what he turns into he will still be a solid contributor for this organization like a Daymond Langkow.
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06-14-2013, 08:51 AM
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#919
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Singapore
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Originally Posted by Francis's Hairpiece
Would he be worth overpaying for?
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Logically, if he's worth it then it's not overpaying.
Of course only time would tell.
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06-14-2013, 09:02 AM
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#920
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I think that comes with the territory when a prospect is well rounded but maybe lacks the elite skillset of the first tier prospects. That doesn't mean he won't be a solid #1 center. Besides every team needs a good #2 center so if that's what he turns into he will still be a solid contributor for this organization like a Daymond Langkow.
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Don't want to blow a top 10 pick on a Daymond Langkow. Daymond Langkows are available through trade. Number one centers are not. If Monahan doesn't project as a top line player or do anything at an exceptional level, then stay the hell away from him.
This team needs top end talent. Lindholm has been identified as having exceptional talent. The big thing Monahan has going for him is he's big, Canadian and plays in the OHL/QMJHL scouting hub of Ottawa. The more I read and hear about this kid the more I believe he is an average player riding a wave of hype. I'm terrified the Flames draft him and end up with another Rob Niedermayer or (worse) an Eric Nystrom. I don't want guys that have potential to be good, I want guys that have potential to be great. I'm not getting the "great" potential vibe from Monahan.
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