Rob Ford Transgressions Thread

[CaptainCrunch]

Holy crap did you guys know that there are sites out there talking about the myths about Crack and the benefits of smoking it.

Its almost like the drug dealers got web admins, how soon til the mobile apps show up.

[BigNumbers]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I don't disagree with that.

Would you say then that you agree with it?

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I don't disagree with that.

There are advantages to a number of illicit narcotics out there. I'm not saying crack is one of them, but cocaine has been used in pharmacology in the past. There are two main problems with cocaine, and the first stems from it being illegal, which allows not only the cartels, but every distributor along the way to "step on" or introduce their own cuts to the final product. The other problem is it's incredibly addictive to many people, but there is some research out there that suggests that addiction is largely genetic and there are some who are impervious to it (albeit a small percent of the population).

[FlamesAddiction]

Calling it ridiculous was good enough for an ordinary person. If I call you a giraffe, you could call it ridiculous and I wouldn't expect you to get up and explain why you aren't a giraffe. For most people, an accusation that they smoked crack is ridiculous.

Rob Ford though, he is a public figure and there was a still image and a rumoured video so it demanded a quick response. A response 8 days later does not give a lot of confidence IMO. If something isn't true and therefore an impossibility of evidence, it doesn't require that much planning and preparation.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Calling it ridiculous was good enough for an ordinary person. If I call you a giraffe, you could call it ridiculous and I wouldn't expect you to get up and explain why you aren't a giraffe. For most people, an accusation that they smoked crack is ridiculous.

Rob Ford though, he is a public figure and there was a still image and a rumoured video so it demanded a quick response. A response 5 days later does not give a lot of confidence IMO. If something isn't true and therefore an impossibility of evidence, it doesn't require that much planning and preparation.

His first response wasn't five days later, his first response was calling the whole thing ridiculous which was I think the same day that the story broke.

Saying it was a ridiculous story was the only statement that he should have had to make until the video was released.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Holy crap did you guys know that there are sites out there talking about the myths about Crack and the benefits of smoking it.

Its almost like the drug dealers got web admins, how soon til the mobile apps show up.

Reminds me of this girl I worked with a few years ago who was raving about how she dropped 20 lbs since she started hitting the rock.

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

there is a reason why addicts call crack the devil in a pipe. Ford isn't doing crack or he wouldn't be able to function normally. If he did smoke crack and it didn't effect him with a craving for more in a couple hours, He must be a 1 in a billion kind of guy.

Actually addicts call it sucking the devils dick. Which pretty much sums it up.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by SebC

Ford's problem is that he's denied too many things that have turned out to be true. His denials carry no weight anymore, and that's something that's self-inflicted.

Toronto Star has a nice long history of going after Ford and seeing what will stick. There is credibility issues on both sides....but this is a huge accusation and regardless of how it turns out - heads should roll.

it's looking like the star and gawker are slowly presenting us with the end game.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

His first response wasn't five days later, his first response was calling the whole thing ridiculous which was I think the same day that the story broke.

Saying it was a ridiculous story was the only statement that he should have had to make until the video was released.

story broke wednesday night
ford commented thursday morning
so ya not 5 days

let's get the facts straight people, especially if you are going to suggest its true based on wrong information

[CaptainCrunch]

With enough photoshop and the right lighting



Could become

[Zevo]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

If he's dealing with Drug dealers or the like then the moment that he opens that pandora's box and pays them for the video, they will keep hitting him up over and over again.

Since we're dealing in hypothetical theory which is what your post is.

His best move would be to pay someone a fraction of the 6 figures to gut the video owners like a fish and bury them in the woods as soon as he knew who they were.

I could throw out another story just for fun. Maybe Gawker did have a tipster and maybe they had a viewing, but does it stand up to hard forensic proof? Maybe the Star just piggy backed on this story to boost their flagging circulation and the video maybe showed Ford there, but not partaking?

Maybe he was main lining heroine while strangling a little girl and the video was too horrible to put out to the public, especially when ford shed his skin and revealed his true form



We might never know now.

I agree that paying the drug dealers would be stupid, but hey would that surprise anyone.

And you need to calm down a little Captain, I was just saying the timing is interesting, thats all.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

story broke wednesday night
ford commented thursday morning
so ya not 5 days

let's get the facts straight people, especially if you are going to suggest its true based on wrong information

Commenting is not the same thing as making a statement and proper address. It took him 8 days to do that. I can't imagine that is ever the right strategy for a politician.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Zevo

I agree that paying the drug dealers would be stupid, but hey would that surprise anyone.

And you need to calm down a little Captain, I was just saying the timing is interesting, thats all.

Oh I'm completely calm and totally fab

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Commenting is not the same thing as making a statement and proper address. It took him 8 days to do that. I can't imagine that is ever the right strategy for a politician.

By not making a statement he was basically saying that the story had no credibility.

that's what he should have done.

I can't believe that people can't seem to link "This story is ridiculous" with "I don't smoke crack"

[CaptainCrunch]

A buddy of mine sent this to me, its dated in January from Canadian Listed, wonder if its a fake

http://toronto.canadianlisted.com/ot...o_1662709.html

[MelBridgeman]

So Ford not making a "statement" for eight days is more ridiculous than a alleged video of him smoking crack not appearing for just as long because the people who have it (drug dealers) want 200K to release it and now they aren't answering their calls.

i laugh at some peoples blind hate towards the man

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

i laugh at some peoples blind hate towards the man

Be careful or you might choke on all that smug.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

By not making a statement he was basically saying that the story had no credibility.

that's what he should have done.

I can't believe that people can't seem to link "This story is ridiculous" with "I don't smoke crack"

Sure they can.

But he has said the same thing about DUI/marijuana possession charges in Florida which turned out to be true.
He said the same thing about being kicked out of a Leafs hockey game which also turned out to be true.
And there were already rumblings about substance abuse after the organizers of an event to celebrate the Canadian armed forced asked him to leave because of inebriation.

Even his chief of staff suggested going to rehab.

So he already has a history of lying about issues, there are already rumours of substance abuse, 3 separate reporters have seen the video and all are standing behind their belief that it is real, and one of his closest advisers suggested he enter rehab.

And you wonder why people don't simply accept his "Ridiculous" comment?

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Be careful or you might choke on all that smug.

sticks and stones, brah.

lets get this conversation off the elementary school yard

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Sure they can.

But he has said the same thing about DUI/marijuana possession charges in Florida which turned out to be true.
He said the same thing about being kicked out of a Leafs hockey game which also turned out to be true.
And there were already rumblings about substance abuse after the organizers of an event to celebrate the Canadian armed forced asked him to leave because of inebriation.

Even his chief of staff suggested going to rehab.

So he already has a history of lying about issues, there are already rumours of substance abuse, 3 separate reporters have seen the video and all are standing behind their belief that it is real, and one of his closest advisers suggested he enter rehab.

And you wonder why people don't simply accept his "Ridiculous" comment?

hmmm currently there is no video and the source has vanished which puts the credibility of the reporters into question.

Ford is known to have a drinking problem and since your putting out theories I will too, maybe this story has really put him into the wagon and his chief of staff wanted him to get treatment for alcohol abuse, which last time I checked wasn't a crime.

You keep trying to link drinking with proof of crack addiction.

This story is falling apart faster then a $3.00 walmart shirt, so right now the whole "ridiculous thing looks about right"

This isn't about Ford at the moment, this is about the Star and Gawker not doing what it takes to actually produce a credible news story.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

By not making a statement he was basically saying that the story had no credibility.

that's what he should have done.

I can't believe that people can't seem to link "This story is ridiculous" with "I don't smoke crack"

What he should have did was answer questions. By saying refusing to take questions or even speak in complete sentences, it left everything open.


His former press secretary nails it pretty much. She is still a supporter, but she explains why his original comment was not good enough:

http://globalnews.ca/news/580807/rob...ess-secretary/

It's really not good enough to say; "It's ridiculous and that is all I am saying/", and then turning his back on questions. That's not the way a politician (especially an innocent one) should respond.