Rob Ford Transgressions Thread

[MissTeeks]

Fired from coaching football:

http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hal...don_bosco.html

Toronto’s Catholic school board has banned Mayor Rob Ford from coaching football at any Catholic school in the city, ending a decade-long affiliation with Don Bosco that has brought Ford personal joy and political praise and criticism.

The decision does not appear to be related to the crack cocaine scandal Ford is now facing — which centres on a video in which an apparently intoxicated Ford appears to refer to Don Bosco players as “just f---ing minorities.” Director of education Bruce Rodrigues had been reviewing Ford’s role at Don Bosco since March, and spokesperson John Yan said Ford’s dismissal was finalized before the scandal erupted last week.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

Fired from coaching football:

http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hal...don_bosco.html

The decision does not appear to be related to the crack cocaine scandal Ford is now facing — which centres on a video in which an apparently intoxicated Ford appears to refer to Don Bosco players as “just f---ing minorities.” Director of education Bruce Rodrigues had been reviewing Ford’s role at Don Bosco since March, and spokesperson John Yan said Ford’s dismissal was finalized before the scandal erupted last week.

Lying Liars.

But that's okay. I understand.

Cowperson

[nik-]

Any bets on this all ending in suicide or a heart attack caused by a drug rampage after he's tossed out?

[savemedrzaius]

Now there's talk that even if Gawker raises the $200,000 it might not be so easy to get the money to the dealers. Rob Ford has 10,000 Lives.

The purchase of the video itself isn’t illegal, but if the recipient — the details of which must be known for wire transfers and other electronic transactions — is a known criminal and shows up on a list of suspects or suspicious individuals, it will be reported to FINTRAC in Canada or FINCEN in the U.S., she said.

“Assuming it’s a legitimate video and it’s legally taken, that’s not a problem,” she said. “Except that it’s going to a known drug dealer. Paying to a known drug dealer for a legitimate sale is problematic in and of itself, because the vendor [is] of questionable character and there are questionable activities.”

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/05...-cash-seizure/

[killer_carlson]

I dont believe it is authentic, and i believe ford wants it out more than his critics do.

His critics are riding this scandal to new heights everyday notwithstanding there is no authentication of the video.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

I dont believe it is authentic, and i believe ford wants it out more than his critics do.

His critics are riding this scandal to new heights everyday notwithstanding there is no authentication of the video.

Let's say you're right (I have no idea). He should file suit any day now, right?

[Senator Clay Davis]

Please do not remove Rob Ford. Christ keep him as mayor for 20 more years. This guy is too good (in the unintentionally hilarious way) to get rid of. Besides I wanna see where we go from crack smoking. Meth production? 15 hooker gang bangs? A monkey as his deputy mayor? The possibilities are endless.

[killer_carlson]

I dont know how he handles this from a PR perspective, lawsuit or not.

[savemedrzaius]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

I dont believe it is authentic, and i believe ford wants it out more than his critics do.

His critics are riding this scandal to new heights everyday notwithstanding there is no authentication of the video.

I guess this would make sense.

In the past, when Ford has been accused of something (Marijuana possession, DUI, getting kicked out of a Leafs game) he has denied it from the outset, even though it was eventually proved to be true.

In the smoke-cracking case he has barely denied it, so it is probably a fake. Rob Ford lives in Bizarro World.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

I dont believe it is authentic, and i believe ford wants it out more than his critics do.

His critics are riding this scandal to new heights everyday notwithstanding there is no authentication of the video.

There are three witnesses who, being very familiar with Rob Ford, having viewed the video multiple times, and at the risk of their careers, have positively identified the man in the video as Rob Ford. Now, eye witness identification is inherently frail, but it doesn't get much stronger than that. I'm not sure what more "authentication" you want except for Ford to break down and tearfully admit that it was him (which of course may well be coming after the video is released.)

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Makarov

There are three witnesses who, being very familiar with Rob Ford, having viewed the video multiple times, and at the risk of their careers, have positively identified the man in the video as Rob Ford. Now, eye witness identification is inherently frail, but it doesn't get much stronger than that. I'm not sure what more "authentication" you want except for Ford to break down and tearfully admit that it was him (which of course may well be coming after the video is released.)

Until we see the video it remains unproven. Especially with the Star who had the whole Ford beat up one of his players scandals and it proved false. The Star like the sun is not a Bastien for unbiased journalism. The Sun via the left, The Star via the right. Right now the eye witnesses who viewed the video are not the end all and be all of the truth.

I still do find it weird that the Star didn't pony up the cash for the exclusive first rights to the viedo, or that a bigger agency like QMI didn't lunge in and steal it right under their nose.

I laugh at how people are demanding that Ford should address this crack thing, what's he going to do besides what he's done now? Sit there for hours continually saying "It wasn't me"

The Toronto Star has probably already made a ton of money on this thing without the video, but at some point, they're going to have to produce.

[PsYcNeT]

Well the release looks nearly assured, the 'crackstarter' is at 133k and is trending to meet it's goal sometime on Saturday night/Sunday morning.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/rob-ford-crackstarter

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Well the release looks nearly assured, the 'crackstarter' is at 133k and is trending to meet it's goal sometime on Saturday night/Sunday morning.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/rob-ford-crackstarter

As far as which was it goes, either way would please me. If it is true we get to see the real world destruction of a major political figure.

If its a massive con by drug dealers, then I laugh at everyone who tossed their money away, I also possibly get to watch a major metropolitan news paper get legally destroyed.

Personally I can't lose

[FlamesAddiction]

Rob Ford is very wealthy and was born in money. If there is a tape out there, I would bet that he is going to be the highest bidder anyway. This is why he hasn't really said much yet.

The guy is like an oiled up pick at a Kentucky family picnic. He always seems to wiggle and squeal his way out.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

As far as which was it goes, either way would please me. If it is true we get to see the real world destruction of a major political figure.

If its a massive con by drug dealers, then I laugh at everyone who tossed their money away, I also possibly get to watch a major metropolitan news paper get legally destroyed.

Personally I can't lose

Really? Because up to this point you and Killer_carlson seem to be fairly strongly ensconced in Rob Ford's corner.

Your posts appear to be going beyond questioning the authenticity of the video. Perhaps it is simply a hatred of the Star? You seem to keep championing the fact that this will take the Toronto Star down, yet the whole story was broken by Gawker who is not affiliated with Torstar.

I think the Toronto Star will not suffer any harm regardless of whether the video is released or not. They have been very careful of how they reported this. And even if the video is never released, this reminded everyone of all the gaffs of Ford's entire career when they were brought up over and over by international media. Rob Ford is done.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Really? Because up to this point you and Killer_carlson seem to be fairly strongly ensconced in Rob Ford's corner.

Seriously? I don't think I've ever been in Rob Ford's corner, the guy is a bufoon, and a bit of an idiot with a bluster factor of 10.

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Your posts appear to be going beyond questioning the authenticity of the video. Perhaps it is simply a hatred of the Star? You seem to keep championing the fact that this will take the Toronto Star down, yet the whole story was broken by Gawker who is not affiliated with Torstar.

I don't hate the Toronto Star, its the Sun of Toronto filled with shoddy journalism and an attack mentality of anything right, Gawker is what Gawker is, A Internet website with no real journalistic value. I'm a firm believer of the old saying "is it real or is it memorex", When I see the Star claiming that one of the journalists has seen the tape, but doesn't take the next logical step of buying that tape and getting the exclusive imagery which could sell millions of copies for a struggling paper, my BS alarm goes off.

I do find that the gleeful attempt of the man by the Star to be a bit distasteful.

I want to re-iterate, I might be on the left side of the spectrum, but I think that Rob Ford is a terrible mayor, end of story. I think that the City of Toronto needs better leadership then what is being provided here.

I also have a hope that this is one of the bigger cons being pulled on people that are willing to toss their hard earned money to drug dealers, I would also like to see media sources held more accountable to what they print especially if there's shoddy journalism involved.

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

I think the Toronto Star will not suffer any harm regardless of whether the video is released or not. They have been very careful of how they reported this. And even if the video is never released, this reminded everyone of all the gaffs of Ford's entire career when they were brought up over and over by international media. Rob Ford is done.

Bobble, I'm hoping that you step back and realize the difference between Gaffe's in the public record and accusing a person of smoking crack and being a racist, which to me are far more serious and to me hold a much higher and unimpeachable level of evidence.

Remember that this is also a paper that accused Ford of beating up a teenage football player during a practice and it turned out to be false.

The Star is a rag, the sun (with the exception of a few column writers) is a rag. But there has to be a standard of fact applied to ever story eventually.

If the Star wants to stand by the video and a story that's potentially a huge dollar story that could save their paper (another red flag for me), then buy the damn tape and show it to the world, then your free to go after Ford.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

, Gawker is what Gawker is, A Internet website with no real journalistic value.

I'm not really a huge fan of Gawker, but what makes a well-known website with millions of readers have less journalistic value than the Star?

A printing press?

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Remember that this is also a paper that accused Ford of beating up a teenage football player during a practice and it turned out to be false.

If I remember correctly, the Star never even issued an apology for this. What kills me is how everyone seems to be stating the infallibility of the Star while openly ignoring the point above despite the fact that it has been mentioned numerous times.

At least wait until the video comes out people...

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Ark2

If I remember correctly, the Star never even issued an apology for this. What kills me is how everyone seems to be stating the infallibility of the Star while openly ignoring the point above despite the fact that it has been mentioned numerous times.

At least wait until the video comes out people...

For my money, I'm more inclined to believe Gawker, whose account happened to be backed up by 2 reporters at the Star after the fact.

Ignoring the fact that Gawker broke the story first makes you all sound like old men.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

For my money, I'm more inclined to believe Gawker, whose account happened to be backed up by 2 reporters at the Star after the fact.

Ignoring the fact that Gawker broke the story first makes you all sound like old men.

Having two Star reporters and a Gawker reporter both of who can massively profit from dragging this on doesn't fill me with certainty.

Sorry.