Removing fluoride from water supply has increased cavities in kids

[evman150]

Originally Posted by MrCallahan

haha! I wouldn't say that I'm a conspiracy theorist...you take the info for what it's worth, do your own research, and make your own judgement from what you find. Regardless, if all the affects of fluoride are positive, I'd rather take it in a supplement/diet form, rather than having it pumped into the water system.

Please don't.

[Canuck-Hater]

Originally Posted by Minnie

There is a joke in there, about talking out your arse, lol. Not saying you are. It just amused me.


I've never quite understood the big brouhaha about flouride in the water. Big whoop. Seems stupid to remove it.

Because it does absolutely nothing. Its completely pointless, if its not enough to harm individuals its probably not enough to help.

[Tiger]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

Because it does absolutely nothing. Its completely pointless, if its not enough to harm individuals its probably not enough to help.

that is bad logic... there are plenty of things that a little is very helpful and a lot is harmful.

things that some of it is great, too much is bad for people:
water
vitamins (even Vitamin C will give you the ####s if you take too much)
potassium
pretty much every other mineral especially the trace minerals you need.

[evman150]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

if its not enough to harm individuals its probably not enough to help.

WHaaaa?



There is literally nothing in the universe that fits your description.

[Tiger]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

Wow you went from hockey posts to soccer posts with how far you moved the goal posts.

He proved your point wrong that there is fluoride in bottle water the same as tap water... in reply you have tried to ignore the original statement that was made and call him a dick (but proved to be quiet dickish yourself in this thread)

[Canuck-Hater]

Originally Posted by evman150

WHaaaa?



There is literally nothing in the universe that fits your description.

I'm specifically referring to fluoride and nothing else. If 0.08 PPM of Fluorosilicic Acid in our drinking water isn't enough to harm an individual, how could that same amount have any effect on tooth decay? You would think it would require more fluoride in the water. Thats what I'm driving at.

[evman150]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

I'm specifically referring to fluoride and nothing else.

Well you're wrong. And brutally so.

Sometimes I wonder what extremes of cognitive dissonance must be at play in people's minds to believe some of this conspiracy stuff.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

As a chiropractor, there are many in my profession who are anti-fluoride in water, and they regularly cite articles from really obscure publications from China. I have yet to read a single thing in any mainstream medical literature that says there's anything wrong with water fluoridation. It's been going on for over 60 years in some parts of America, and there's been no documentations of any adverse effects that I can find.

I think people always assume that something "put in the water" is bad for them. But in the end, empirical evidence should always be relied on to make a judgement.

For my money, there's no problem with the very minor amount of fluoride put in drinking water.

[photon]

"If a few mg of L-ascorbic acid isn't enough to harm an individual, how could the same amount have any effect not getting scurvy? You would think it would require more L-ascorbic acid".

How much of something is required to have a certain effect isn't guided by what one would think with their intuition, it would be dictated by the chemical processes involved. Some things require very small amounts, other many orders of magnitude more.

[Canuck-Hater]

Originally Posted by evman150

Well you're wrong. And brutally so.

Sometimes I wonder what extremes of cognitive dissonance must be at play in people's minds to believe some of this conspiracy stuff.

Well that's just your opinion. Its hardly "conspiracy stuff" if many other countries around the world don't fluoridate their water supply.

[Minnie]

I'm not worried about a little fluoride being added to my water. I'm fairly sure there are all kinds of worse things that end up in there without being directly added by TPTB. We humans aren't a terribly responsible lot. *shrug*

The brouhaha over this ranks right up there with 'OMGOMGOMGOMGVACCINESAUTISM!'

[JohnnyB]

I credit fluoride in the water supply with the fact I've never had a single cavity in my life despite terrible oral hygiene as a child. Every place should have fluoride in the water.

[Canuck-Hater]

Originally Posted by Minnie

I'm not worried about a little fluoride being added to my water. I'm fairly sure there are all kinds of worse things that end up in there without being directly added by TPTB. We humans aren't a terribly responsible lot. *shrug*

The brouhaha over this ranks right up there with 'OMGOMGOMGOMGVACCINESAUTISM!'

Not even close.

[Mark]

I have heard that for fluoride to be effective, it needs to be applied topically for longer than 30 seconds. This would include brushing your teeth or having it at the dentist. Simply drinking water and letting it pass through your mouth wouldn't do anything. Makes sense to me but since I have no link, just an opinion.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by GGG

Also when he states that tooth decay in children is 100% preventable it still is. It just takes good oral care. Floride helps but the underlying cause of tooth decay is and has always been poor oral hygene

Yes, but Floride helps reduce the harm. What causes injuries in car accidents - it's bad driving, inattention, etc. but seat belts reduce the injuries. Should we cancel seatbelt laws and tell people to drive more safely?

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

Not even close.

I don't mean to be harsh, but it's almost impossible to give you any credibility in a scientific conversation given the total lack of sense in your previous post about requirements to help/harm.

You'd make a much stronger argument with more data.

[ShaolinFlame]

Originally Posted by evman150

WHaaaa?



There is literally nothing in the universe that fits your description.

Chemotherapy is a thing in the universe. If it's not enough to harm an individual, it's probably not enough to help.

So, is there like a prize or something that goes with that?

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

Not even close.

Sure, ok.

[To Be Quite Honest]

There is Fluoride in your toothpaste so as long as you are brushing your teeth 2-3 times a day this whole topic is moot.

Man there are a lot of angry people on this board.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Why was it done again?

Because city council could no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.