Flames 2013 Draft Discussion - Page 198 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

bucksmasher · 05-14-2013, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

People already flipping out and the draft hasn't even happened yet. Good old CP.

What's life without a daily crisis?

Hockey_Ninja · 05-14-2013, 05:14 PM

I'm not going to lie, i don't want us to take Nichushkin. But i would 100% understand why the Flames would draft him. Big, skilled, great skater, great shot, dominant. I feel like Monahan and Lindholm would be better fit for the Flames but Nichushkin has way more upside and more potential to be a franchise player then both of them. It all comes down to the interviews with him. I can see him going to Tampa or Carolina.

kyuss275 · 05-14-2013, 05:28 PM

i highly doubt the flames will draft Nichushkin. It seems a lot of scouts see him with top 5 draft potential. If he passes the interview process with Calgary, i don't see how he fails the interview process with Tampa, Nahshvile and Carolina. To me either he passes the interview process and gets drafted in the top 5 or he fails interview process and drops a lot.

Still think the #6 pick will be between Lindholm and Monahan. Good cases could be made for both, and i will be happy with either.

IamNotKenKing · 05-14-2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by albertGQ

Wouldn't our 2nd round be #36?

Yup. My bad...Sorry!

sureLoss · 05-14-2013, 05:31 PM

Todd Button audio for those who want to listen:
http://pmd.fan960.com/audio_on_deman...-Interview.mp3

The Fonz · 05-14-2013, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I wouldn't mind Nichushkin at all at #6. I hope he is there.

6'4", great skating, plays all forward positions, plays physical, elite shot...yeah, let's just skip him.

He closest comparable apparently is Malkin. I don't see a problem. Russian or not, this team needs an influx of both skill AND size. This team is too small, and it really needs franchise players more than anything else. Here is a player that adds both dimensions. Sign me up!

Nobody has questioned his skill or potential.

Will he come to Calgary, Alberta, and play 3 years on an ELC, when he is being offered upwards of 5M per to stay home in Russia?

If he does come over, will he stay? What about when things don't go his way, and the KHL offers him Radulov$$$ to come back?

For the love of God, please don't draft this kid.

nik- · 05-14-2013, 05:43 PM

Our prospect pool can't afford the risk of him not coming over. That's what it comes down to to me.

dammage79 · 05-14-2013, 05:54 PM

You know, the only way to get over the Russian stigma is to get Russian players in the system. Can't run and hide from a certain type of player the entire existence of your franchise because of a couple other players who set a bad example. I also feel the whole money thing has warrant but so does the fact that professional athletes are more driven to compete at the highest level in the world. To me it's a wash.

That said. I am like most people here who hope they take a high profile center before they take a winger. But I will not make a fuss if they take Nichushkin. In fact I will probably be over the moon with any of the high profile forwards that they pick with their top pick.

Table 5 · 05-14-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nik-

Our prospect pool can't afford the risk of him not coming over. That's what it comes down to to me.

Yep, exactly. Besides, there are too many fantastic players in that Top 10 to chose from to have to take on additional risk. Taking on more risk than you have to would be foolish for this team.

Dagger · 05-14-2013, 06:05 PM

Feaster has a history of selecting big players that are high risk/high reward. Aside from Sven every other top 30 pick of his falls under this category. He LOVES that type of player, and I would be surprised if we don't take Nichuskin if he's there.

timbit · 05-14-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Table 5

Yep, exactly. Besides, there are too many fantastic players in that Top 10 to chose from to have to take on additional risk. Taking on more risk than you have to would be foolish for this team.

I can see your rationale, especially since Jankowski is a long ways from being considered a sure thing.

Commandant · 05-14-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FlameZilla

Would you mind posting these in FC's thread as well? It will be much easier to keep track of in there...

done

the whole list is in my sig as well

Fischy13 · 05-14-2013, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Commandant

You don't re-seed after the first round... you do it after the second round.

The first and second round losers are all ranked according to points, not by which round they lost in.

Only the final four teams are pushed to the back of the draft order 27-30

??? That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, Washington will pick later in the 1st round regardless if they lost out in the first or second. If Toronto had won last night, the Bruins pick, along with Washingtons would be ranked later regardless of the second round outcome. Having these 2 teams out in the first round just lets us know sooner and for sure that the St. Louis pick will be that many spots better.

Matty81 · 05-14-2013, 08:13 PM

It wouldn't surprise me if the "four franchise players" Feaster spoke of included Nichushkin and not Barkov. I have been doing a ton of reading on the first round prospects and I'm getting the impression he is a better player when it comes to physical tools. With the new contract he signed he's got a major red flag though, I can't say I'd be thrilled to see him picked but when you compare him to Lindholm who will be staying in Sweden for another year I guess it's only 12 more months.

JiriHrdina · 05-14-2013, 08:15 PM

Some think fucale has elite upside. May not be terrible to draft him with one of the other picks

albertGQ · 05-14-2013, 08:16 PM

No goalies in the first round please.

We have enough signed goalies in the system currently

nik- · 05-14-2013, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Some think fucale has elite upside. May not be terrible to draft him with one of the other picks

If you get near the end of the first and Zykov and Fucale are both there, who do you take? I take the winger, even though I think he's got a pretty decent bust potential.

JiriHrdina · 05-14-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nik-

If you get near the end of the first and Zykov and Fucale are both there, who do you take? I take the winger, even though I think he's got a pretty decent bust potential.

Not sure dont know either well enough but at some point late in the first grabbing the best tender isn't a bad idea

Table 5 · 05-14-2013, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Some think fucale has elite upside. May not be terrible to draft him with one of the other picks

The problem with goalies is that by the time they are ready to play, they are usually on their 2nd or 3rd teams. So the team that drafts them wastes a pick, wastes development time and dollars, and someone else usually gets to enjoy the benefits. I'm sure if you go around the league, most starters were drafted by someone else. And I'm sure most of them were drafted outside of the 1st round.

Just too much of a crapshoot. Not worth it. Goalies are voodoo magic that nobody understands how to predict. "Elite upside" really means very little in this position.

nik- · 05-14-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Not sure dont know either well enough but at some point late in the first grabbing the best tender isn't a bad idea

I think what the Flames have been doing with goalies since Irving is the right track. Take another one every couple of years in a mid round.