WQF (3) Vancouver Canucks vs (6) San Jose Sharks (Sharks win 4-0!!!!).

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

No way in hell the twins wave to go to Edmonton.

—but, they're building something special up there...

[killer_carlson]

Cant see Vancouver trading them to Edmonton only to have them return often each season.

[Puppet Guy]

So as not to offend Captain Crunch's delicate sensibilities...

Spoiler!

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

No way in hell the twins wave to go to Edmonton.

Don't think Gillis would make that deal as the optics aren't very good. I don't think the Sedins are getting traded. They are the 1st line and 1st powerplay unit. What would the Canucks have for a 1st line if they trade the Sedins? IMO when you are still making the playoffs you don't make trades that are going to make you a non-playoff team. The problem with the Flames is that they should have cleaned house after they missed the playoffs for the 2nd year in a row as it's clear the team was trending down but you do not completely blow up a playoff team like the Canucks until they start trending to a non-playoff team as once you get on the outside it's difficult to get back into the playoffs let alone become a cup contender.

If I was Gillis I would try to trade Luongo for a top 6 forward and see how they fare with a new head coach. If a new coach yields the same results or worse then you have to look at possibly moving out guys like Edler, Bieksa, Kesler, etc.

[Regorium]

Although I love watching the Canucks get their butts kicked, I'm just wondering why they can't seem to show up.

Even the Isles, who are hopelessly outmatched, are playing with playoff-level intensity and battling for every inch of ice.

The Canucks are the only team so far that hasn't even tried. I see them coasting as if it was the pre-season. It's boring to watch, and just completely one-sided.

I feel like the Sedins lost a step pretty badly this year and are getting knocked off the puck far easier than previous years. That's probably bad considering their entire game is built around possession and pulling opponents out of position.

[Brick]

Na na na na...na na na na...hey hey...na na na na

[East Coast Flame]

You guys are insane if you think the twins are going anywhere, and that there wouldn't be 29 teams lining up to trade for them.

[Northendzone]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

If I was Gillis I would try to trade Luongo for a top 6 forward and see how they fare with a new head coach.

ha ha ha......what team is going to trade a T6 forward for a goalie they have to pay/take a cap hit on for the next 10 to 12 years

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

I haven't been able to watch any of the games but it doesn't come as a big shock. The team just isn't as good as it was two years ago when they were the best team in the league when healthy... that said, I don't think that they should trade the Sedin twins at the current time, give them the option to leave if they want and to stay if they want but to ask them to waive their no trade clauses would be pretty disrespectful to two of the classier people in the league. That said if they were on the market the return would be large and 29 teams would love to have them on their team.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

If I was Gillis I would try to trade Luongo for a top 6 forward and see how they fare with a new head coach.

It would have to be a forward with some serious warts to justify a team taking on Luongo's contract. Add the fact that the team would have to have a goaltending need and the cap room to work with (and Luongo would waive to go to - I know that he said he would waive if it was best for the Canucks, but we'll see) and I don't know if you can find a team with all those factors.

[I_H8_Crawford]

Originally Posted by Regorium

Although I love watching the Canucks get their butts kicked, I'm just wondering why they can't seem to show up.

Even the Isles, who are hopelessly outmatched, are playing with playoff-level intensity and battling for every inch of ice.

The Canucks are the only team so far that hasn't even tried. I see them coasting as if it was the pre-season. It's boring to watch, and just completely one-sided.

I said it as soon as the Canucks lost to the Bruins - the team is actually gutless, and once they experienced what it takes to get to the cup finals, they will never want to go through that again.

The Canucks are gutless and heartless and are not willing to make the sacrifice required to win in the playoffs, so we see the results that we are seeing from them now.

[DuffMan]

Beast mode.

Originally Posted by Mike F

NSFW!

[GGG]

I think that the Canucks should trade Schnieder if they want to get better. They could get a solid top 6 guy for him. The reason you keep Luongo is that over the next 5 years your team is on the decline which matches up well with where the rest of the team is headed. So if you are trying to maximize your chance of winning a cup in your window you trade schnider for help now and worry about your goalie of the future in the future.

If you get another scorer to help Kesler on the second line they would be a lot better off.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by I_H8_Crawford

I said it as soon as the Canucks lost to the Bruins - the team is actually gutless, and once they experienced what it takes to get to the cup finals, they will never want to go through that again.

The Canucks are gutless and heartless and are not willing to make the sacrifice required to win in the playoffs, so we see the results that we are seeing from them now.

The team just doesn't have the guns anymore to get the job done, they miss Erhoff on the powerplay and pushing the puck up the ice and the Sedins are older, Kesler is continually injured and Manny Malholtra is done... that is the difference between 2011 and 2013.

Honestly, the Canucks are obviously due for a rebuild, they will gradually fall in the standings

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by East Coast Flame

You guys are insane if you think the twins are going anywhere, and that there wouldn't be 29 teams lining up to trade for them.

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

I haven't been able to watch any of the games but it doesn't come as a big shock. The team just isn't as good as it was two years ago when they were the best team in the league when healthy... that said, I don't think that they should trade the Sedin twins at the current time, give them the option to leave if they want and to stay if they want but to ask them to waive their no trade clauses would be pretty disrespectful to two of the classier people in the league. That said if they were on the market the return would be large and 29 teams would love to have them on their team.

This is easy to say, but completely meaningless unless you offer up some context in the way of cost. There are 29 teams lining up to pick up almost any decent NHLer if the price is right.

But the Sedins will be 33 when next season starts and cost a combined $12.2M and will be pending UFAs.

What GM in their right mind would give up much in the way of rebuilding assets to acquire them?

To the person that suggested they could garner a top 5 pick: can you say (with a straight face) that you would you give up the chance to pick a 17 yr old Barkov and his ELC in order to acquire potentially one season of the Sedins at $12.2M?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Don't think Gillis would make that deal as the optics aren't very good. I don't think the Sedins are getting traded. They are the 1st line and 1st powerplay unit. What would the Canucks have for a 1st line if they trade the Sedins? IMO when you are still making the playoffs you don't make trades that are going to make you a non-playoff team. The problem with the Flames is that they should have cleaned house after they missed the playoffs for the 2nd year in a row as it's clear the team was trending down but you do not completely blow up a playoff team like the Canucks until they start trending to a non-playoff team as once you get on the outside it's difficult to get back into the playoffs let alone become a cup contender.

If I was Gillis I would try to trade Luongo for a top 6 forward and see how they fare with a new head coach. If a new coach yields the same results or worse then you have to look at possibly moving out guys like Edler, Bieksa, Kesler, etc.

This. Fans like change and trades but GMs don't blow up playoff teams.

I would expect that they will do whatever is necessary to move one of the goalies (I think they will trade Schneider), bring in a new coach, grab another gritty bottom-sixer, and try again to win.

[d_phaneuf]

they won't trade the Sedins, and I imagine they will re-sign this cheaper at 1-2m less than they are on now

if they wanted a quick rebuild on the fly while staying competative they move Schnieder and Edler and get back at minimum two young top 6 forwards

they can move Edler because of the emergence of Tanev/Corrado

what I think will happen is Edler being moved for a big package at the draft, trade Luongo for picks, fire AV

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

they won't trade the Sedins, and I imagine they will re-sign this cheaper at 1-2m less than they are on now

if they wanted a quick rebuild on the fly while staying competative they move Schnieder and Edler and get back at minimum two young top 6 forwards

they can move Edler because of the emergence of Tanev/Corrado

what I think will happen is Edler being moved for a big package at the draft, trade Luongo for picks, fire AV

With the cap going down its unlikely that we'll see that kind of big ticket trade and especially with Loungo's length of deal and his growing reputation as being unable to win the big game.

The only way that Loungo is getting moved is if the Nucks are willing to pick up another teams bad contract.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 10m
Quite the quote RT @KKurzCSN: Thornton: “We felt [Luongo] was playing great. … We felt we were lucky not to play against Lou, to be honest."

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 8h
I am reminded that Thornton and Luongo are very close. Friend backing friend.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

I haven't been able to watch any of the games but it doesn't come as a big shock. The team just isn't as good as it was two years ago when they were the best team in the league when healthy... that said, I don't think that they should trade the Sedin twins at the current time, give them the option to leave if they want and to stay if they want but to ask them to waive their no trade clauses would be pretty disrespectful to two of the classier people in the league. That said if they were on the market the return would be large and 29 teams would love to have them on their team.

29 teams might want the Sedins, but the Sedins would not waive to go to 29 teams. With money involved, having the other team need 2 top 6 players, and the other team needs to be in win mode, it really narrows down the field.

More than likely Vancouver re-signs them. Would not be surprised if after next season they go back to Sweden, if they can't stay in Vancouver, or go to a team that will take them both and can compete for a Stanley Cup.