05-05-2013, 10:38 PM
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#941
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
still don't mind losing a guy who was one of the worst defensive centers in the league
Hodgson won't ever play on a successful team until he can play a 2 way game
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Guys like Yzerman and Spezza managed to learn how to play the defensive game. Defense is something that can be taught. You can't teach skill which is why the Canucks lost that trade badly. Kassain looks like Dustin Penner light in the making while Buffalo is building their team around Hodgson.
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05-05-2013, 10:39 PM
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#942
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Guys like Yzerman and Spezza managed to learn how to play the defensive game. It's something that can be taught. You can't teach skill which is why the Canucks lost that trade badly. Kassain looks like Dustin Penner light in the making.
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ya but so did Todd Bertuzzi and plenty of other power forwards early in their career
can't teach that size/skill combo either
pointless to judge the trade until the players reach their apex
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05-05-2013, 10:40 PM
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#943
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
still don't mind losing a guy who was one of the worst defensive centers in the league
Hodgson won't ever play on a successful team until he can play a 2 way game
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Well you can't compare Buffalo to Vancouver. You could shelter Hodgson and don't deny he wouldn't be a great help right now. Kassian is a bust, he will be lucky to be in the NHL in 2 years.
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05-05-2013, 10:41 PM
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#944
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Djibouti
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
IIRC you can not touch the puck in the crease at all. As soon as you touch it, in the crease, it's a penalty shot. But it's not reviewable like the maroons on tsn said.
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I just quoted you the actual rule. If simply touching the puck with a glove was a foul, they could have said so. Instead they made it "gathering the puck into the hands"
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05-05-2013, 10:41 PM
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#945
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
ya but so did Todd Bertuzzi and plenty of other power forwards early in their career
can't teach that size/skill combo either
pointless to judge the trade until the players reach their apex
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I suppose although the Sabres return is now their franchise player and Kassain is far from that and Bertuzzi's never been a winner or big difference maker.
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05-05-2013, 10:42 PM
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#946
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Gotta say I love Wilson's strategy of being buyers and sellers. He dealt Clowe and Murray for some solid picks in the next few drafts, then he brought in Hannan and Torres for next to nothing. Not that much of a downgrade really, and both have played great in the first few playoff games playing similar roles expected from the other two.
Brilliant strategy.
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05-05-2013, 10:42 PM
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#947
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Guys like Yzerman and Spezza managed to learn how to play the defensive game. Defense is something that can be taught. You can't teach skill which is why the Canucks lost that trade badly. Kassain looks like Dustin Penner light in the making while Buffalo is building their team around Hodgson.
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That's an insult to Dustin Penner.
Kassian looks like a Jason Wiemer with the hands of Warrener.
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05-05-2013, 10:42 PM
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#948
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I suppose although the Sabres return is now their franchise player and Kassain is far from that.
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Vanek?
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05-05-2013, 10:42 PM
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#949
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
ya but so did Todd Bertuzzi and plenty of other power forwards early in their career
can't teach that size/skill combo either
pointless to judge the trade until the players reach their apex
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It likely ends up as one guy with uses and warts for another guy with pluses and warts.
Likely even deal.
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05-05-2013, 10:42 PM
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#950
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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I would take the skill set of Hodgson in a heart beat.
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05-05-2013, 10:43 PM
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#951
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by trackercowe
Gotta say I love Wilson's strategy of being buyers and sellers. He dealt Clowe and Murray for some solid picks in the next few drafts, then he brought in Hannan and Torres for next to nothing. Not that much of a downgrade really, and both have played great in the first few playoff games playing similar roles expected from the other two.
Brilliant strategy.
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Yeah he really had a brilliant deadline. That's how good teams stay good while still building.
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05-05-2013, 10:43 PM
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#952
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Lifetime In Suspension
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While I love trashing the Canucks as much as everyone else I do have a question. Did it ever come out what Schneider's injury was? I thought they were being all super secret double hush hush with it weren't they? Methinks he was a lot worse off than they let on and rushed back to try and save the series.
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05-05-2013, 10:44 PM
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#953
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Canuck fans on HF think they can get a top 5 pick for the Sedins and top 3 for Edler.
They'll rebuild in no time.
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05-05-2013, 10:44 PM
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#954
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
Vanek?
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I think Hodgson is the guy they are going to build the team around moving forward not Vanek.
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05-05-2013, 10:45 PM
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#955
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Canuck fans on HF think they can get a top 5 pick for the Sedins and top 3 for Edler.
They'll rebuild in no time.
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Yeah it's really just that easy. I imagine Gillis is targeting a bunch of Panthers as we speak as you can never have too many players from one of the basement teams in the league.
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05-05-2013, 10:45 PM
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#956
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
IIRC you can not touch the puck in the crease at all. As soon as you touch it, in the crease, it's a penalty shot. But it's not reviewable like the maroons on tsn said.
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The interpretation they've been using is covering the puck with your hand. Touching it isn't an issue
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05-05-2013, 10:45 PM
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#957
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Albany, NY
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For all the criticism he gets, Marleau deserves a lot of credit for that 4th goal, which basically ended the series. If Kesler had taken that hack he'd still be lying on the ice.
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05-05-2013, 10:45 PM
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#958
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Norm!
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The stunning goaltending duel of 8oungo and 5chneider.
Greatest self destruction since Kirk blew up the Enterprise.
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05-05-2013, 10:45 PM
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#959
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Canuck fans on HF think they can get a top 5 pick for the Sedins and top 3 for Edler.
They'll rebuild in no time.
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One of my friends suggested that the Canucks should trade the Sedins for Pietrangelo and a first round pick
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05-05-2013, 10:46 PM
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#960
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike F
I just quoted you the actual rule. If simply touching the puck with a glove was a foul, they could have said so. Instead they made it "gathering the puck into the hands"
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Yeah, I just know I've seen it before where it resulted in a penalty shot. Maybe where I seen it they blew the call?
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