WQF (3) Vancouver Canucks vs (6) San Jose Sharks (Sharks win 4-0!!!!).

[Puppet Guy]

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

Shhhhh....

Listen.

Do you hear that?

That's the sound of all the Canuck fans / trolls / CP frequenters.

they must still be celebrating Easter...

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Think it is time to pull out the invisible Sedin photoshops.

[jschick88]

Originally Posted by Puppet Guy

they must still be celebrating Easter...

Most of them are banned. HenrikSedin33, WiseGamble to name a few.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius

Teams like Detroit and Vancouver could really cheat the curve by goin into a rebuild now, as opposed to waiting out the slow decline...teams never seem to do that, though.. Too much pressure to win now and make playoff money, I assume.

Imagine what type of futures package could be had for Zetterberg, Franzen, Kronwall and Datsyuk... Or the Sedins, Bieksa and Edler... Either team could have owned the first round of this draft and next.

You're not cheating the curve though. You're bringing the decline in early, but thrown away a chance (albeit smaller) at a cup. There is zero logical argument for this

[Rapidfire999]

=( one time I "cheer" for vancouver and they made me lose 600 =((((

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Rapidfire999

=( one time I "cheer" for vancouver and they made me lose 600 =((((

If you're looking for sympathy you've come to the wrong place.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Rapidfire999

=( one time I "cheer" for vancouver and they made me lose 600 =((((

Thoughts and prayers.

[CsInMyBlood]

Wow! I watched the game until Kesler backchecked after his 2nd goal and had to turn the game off due to the Keslerfest of love the broadcasters were doing. I mean puke in my mouth love. I wake up and check my hockey pool and see that the Canucks lost! A Raffi Torres OT goal no less?! So awesome especially after having to watch Keslers goal scoring celebrations. Woooooooooo!

I have to admit I am a huge fan of Gillis and by extension, Luongo in a Canucks jersey. Meant for each other.

Thanks for making this wonderful Calgary Saturday afternoon, that much more wonderful. Good job Sharks, I wouldn't dare say sweep, but let's see a sweep.

Haha stupid Canucks.

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

In the first two home games in the playoffs, only four players have registered points (Kesler, Bieksa, H Sedin, D Sedin), only two players have scored goals (Kesler and Bieksa), and there is not a single plus-player on the roster.

This is a very, very average playoff team.

Bieksa's goal was nice, was it not?

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I really, really dislike Raffi Torres but I can see why the Sharks picked him up at the deadline as he always seems to be a factor one way or another in the playoffs.

The guy's been a difference maker the last few playoffs. Not always a good difference (see last year) but a team can always use complementary players like him to go far.

Strangely, I'm not really upset about the way things are going. The team needs this to happen, imo.

[Kaine]

Originally Posted by Super Nintendo Chalmers

Bieksa's goal was nice, was it not?

The guy's been a difference maker the last few playoffs. Not always a good difference (see last year) but a team can always use complementary players like him to go far.

Strangely, I'm not really upset about the way things are going. The team needs this to happen, imo.

Agreed. Year after year until the sisters retire would be just A-Ok.

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Originally Posted by Kaine

Agreed. Year after year until the sisters retire would be just A-Ok.

It won't drag out like the Flames' ordeal of the last decade.

Scratch that. I can't tell with Gillis at the helm.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Super Nintendo Chalmers

It won't drag out like the Flames' ordeal of the last decade...

I wouldn't count on that. I'm not that sure the Canucks are that far behind n the same cycle from where the Flames were heading into this season.

[dammage79]

Agreed, I posted before this is shaping up to be very Akin to the Flames playoff successes since 04. By which I mean Cup run>>>>>>>>>>nada, nada, nada, nada.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I wouldn't count on that. I'm not that sure the Canucks are that far behind n the same cycle from where the Flames were heading into this season.

I really hope you're right! Here's to another 40 years of failure!

[opendoor]

Perhaps I might have been too optimistic with my Sharks in 6 prediction.

Originally Posted by Textcritic

This is a very, very average playoff team.

I think the Canucks have a pretty far hill to climb before they can be worthy of the title "average". An average team can at least manage to put up a couple of goals and win a few games.

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I think it is pretty clear that the Sedins are very steadily trending down. This team was a Stanley Cup threat because they were top-five players in the League. Now that they are top-thirty, the Canucks are a fairly average playoff team. I predict that beginning next season, with another step towards retirement for the Sedins and a lower cap, the Canucks will be a playoff bubble team. They won't make it in 2015.

Don't really agree with this. The only thing that's really trending down is their PP production. Their ES production has been extremely consistent over the last 3 seasons. H. Sedin only put up about 5 fewer points over 82 games between 10-11 and this season. They're not going to win an Art Ross Trophy again to be sure, but suggesting a steep and short decline is exceedingly premature.

Not to mention it's not like the new division is going to be a real powerhouse. Calgary and Phoenix aren't going to compete anytime soon, Edmonton might have to start another rebuild, San Jose is just as old as Vancouver, and Anaheim is going to have have trouble when they're giving up a 1/4 of their cap to Getzlaf and Perry and after Selanne is gone. LA is the only real lock in the next few years and the other 3 spots should be up for grabs to any team that can play decently.

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I wouldn't count on that. I'm not that sure the Canucks are that far behind n the same cycle from where the Flames were heading into this season.

The Flames went nearly 20 years without drafting a top 6 forward and went 9 years without getting out of the 1st round before making changes. Their best regular season in the last 15 years saw them finish in the same spot an apparently declining Vancouver finished this year. Even mediocre drafting as well as passable goaltending in some of those seasons would've made the Flames' fall less hard. Not every team is going to do that or consistently ride replacement level goaltending to poor finishes so other teams won't necessarily have the Flames' problems.

There's also far less of a cult of personality with the Canucks' players as there was with Iginla, so it's not really an analogous situation at all IMO. The Canucks will have far less difficulty cutting ties with the old guard than the Flames did. That doesn't mean the Canucks won't have a painful rebuilding period, but blanket comparisons to the Flames are just a lazy way to frame things.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by opendoor

Perhaps I might have been too optimistic with my Sharks in 6 prediction.




I think the Canucks have a pretty far hill to climb before they can be worthy of the title "average". An average team can at least manage to put up a couple of goals and win a few games.



Don't really agree with this. The only thing that's really trending down is their PP production. Their ES production has been extremely consistent over the last 3 seasons. H. Sedin only put up about 5 fewer points over 82 games between 10-11 and this season. They're not going to win an Art Ross Trophy again to be sure, but suggesting a steep and short decline is exceedingly premature.

Not to mention it's not like the new division is going to be a real powerhouse. Calgary and Phoenix aren't going to compete anytime soon, Edmonton might have to start another rebuild, San Jose is just as old as Vancouver, and Anaheim is going to have have trouble when they're giving up a 1/4 of their cap to Getzlaf and Perry and after Selanne is gone. LA is the only real lock in the next few years and the other 3 spots should be up for grabs to any team that can play decently.




The Flames went nearly 20 years without drafting a top 6 forward and went 9 years without getting out of the 1st round before making changes. Their best regular season in the last 15 years saw them finish in the same spot an apparently declining Vancouver finished this year. Even mediocre drafting as well as passable goaltending in some of those seasons would've made the Flames' fall less hard. Not every team is going to do that or consistently ride replacement level goaltending to poor finishes so other teams won't necessarily have the Flames' problems.

There's also far less of a cult of personality with the Canucks' players as there was with Iginla, so it's not really an analogous situation at all IMO. The Canucks will have far less difficulty cutting ties with the old guard than the Flames did. That doesn't mean the Canucks won't have a painful rebuilding period, but blanket comparisons to the Flames are just a lazy way to frame things.

Pretty accurate assessment, all the way around.

[puckedoff]

The tears of Canucks fans remain bright spot of the post-season

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Super Nintendo Chalmers

It won't drag out like the Flames' ordeal of the last decade.

Scratch that. I can't tell with Gillis at the helm.

Hyperbole is fun.

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I wouldn't count on that. I'm not that sure the Canucks are that far behind n the same cycle from where the Flames were heading into this season.

Funny you should delete the second part of that post where I implied that.

[Locke]

The irony of a scumbag like Torres scoring the winning goal on a scumbag organization like Vancouver is absolutely awesome.

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

I am. Will alert when I get a crazy guy off the air.

You should just troll the entire city by having a lineup of us and only us on the air.

Could you imagine and entire Canucks post game show being populated exclusively by CPers? Riot, round 2.