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Old 04-29-2013, 06:36 PM   #361
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What they should do (and TSN would love because it would be a longer show) is to put ping pong balls with team logos on them into the drum. The crappiest team (Florida) has the least amount of balls, Columbus the most. Then you draw the balls one by one starting with the 14th pick. If you draw a ball that was already selected, toss it aside and pick again until all the teams are picked. Would be way more interesting to watch and would make the whole lottery selection weighted.

I'm fine with it the way it is. No way do i want to watch an hour long show about the loser teams of the NHL.
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That lottery announcement only really works if one of the last two teams win it. Let's say if Columbus would have won, would they just have counted down for the next 2 minutes? Would have been awkward.

Oh well, the Flames didn't move down which was a better chance of moving up so I guess I'll live with it.
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Wait, wait, wait.

You're telling me the Oilers didn't win? Miracles still happen!
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:38 PM   #364
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Great minds think alike. We both thought Colorado was going to win, and have the exact same top 7 order. And there's also that great football team
It's not exactly going off the board by saying the top 7 will choose the top 7 players, in the exact order TSN just ranked them.

One would hope there is a surprise or two in there to keep things interesting.
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What a joke lol Edmonton needs defencemen lol
Although I agree with you, I think the mind set in Edmonton is to potentially draft a two way center with size, then trade Gagner+ for defensive help.
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:42 PM   #366
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Cause that's the only way right? Crosby was handed to Pittsburgh because they rigged it that way. The fact they're not willing to show the fans the draw says a lot about them.
That's not the only way, but that is the way it's done.

Are you complaining about the way it's done, or them not showing it?


In your mind, how does this go down? Are all 30 teams in on it, and agree who will be handed the #1 pick? Why go through the charade of a lottery at all?

Do you really think that the owners would sign off on something like that that could be a multi-million dollar swing in the value of their own teams? Or, do you believe this is being orchestrated from behind the scenes completely fraudulently by Bettman and his minions? In nearly 20 years, don't you think someone would have blown the whistle on that?
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That could be some really boring tv if one of the lower teams won the lottery. To make it more interesting they should let any team move up as high as possible and any team can drop as low as possible. Keep the percentages the same but don't limit the drop to just 1 spot. A true lottery draw for 1-14 would make for awesome TV
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What a joke lol Edmonton needs defencemen lol
Agree with you that they need D. Edmonton needs a C as well though. Monahan would address that. Oscar Klefbom (D) is NHL ready. And like someone mentioned, I fully expect them to trade a forward or draft pick for a defenseman.
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Still think Calgary should take Monahan over Lindholm.
Monahan has size (6'2" 186 at 18 years old), had more goals than Lindholm had points, add in his assists and he had 48 more points overall.
Monahan has also been touted to have an incredible Hockey IQ, which would really help a guy like Baertschi, who near the end of the season was really starting to find the right spots. Monahan is the type of Centre that would play to Baertschi's strengths. Throw Cammi on the RW, and get that leadership on the line, and I think they would look great.
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It's not exactly going off the board by saying the top 7 will choose the top 7 players, in the exact order TSN just ranked them.

One would hope there is a surprise or two in there to keep things interesting.
I think the top 4 will go in the same order. The Russian at 5 is where I think things might potentially change.
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:44 PM   #371
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Although I agree with you, I think the mind set in Edmonton is to potentially draft a two way center with size, then trade Gagner+ for defensive help.
Better to draft, the draft guys can't say no...the type of defensive help they need are going to have to trade for have NMC's, so good luck with that.

Long shot...too bad.
Hopefully this is the last time in a long time the Flames have any vested interest in this half hour of TV.
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I think it has more to do with the fact they have 2 top 3 draft players in the last 3 years in Duchene and Landeskog.

It's BS that teams that these teams with multiple top draft selections and elite players just keep stockpiling.

Though it is hilarious that even though, they still suck a lot of donkey ass.
I guess I just don't understand people dumping all over the Avs. Yeah, they tanked, but not as bad as Carolina, TB, Nashville, and Edmonton did. They had an AHL coach with an AHL D core, what else do you expect but a horrible season? People are kidding themselves if they think we didn't purposely try to tank this season.
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Still think Calgary should take Monahan over Lindholm.
Monahan has size (6'2" 186 at 18 years old), had more goals than Lindholm had points, add in his assists and he had 48 more points overall.
Monahan has also been touted to have an incredible Hockey IQ, which would really help a guy like Baertschi, who near the end of the season was really starting to find the right spots. Monahan is the type of Centre that would play to Baertschi's strengths. Throw Cammi on the RW, and get that leadership on the line, and I think they would look great.
Lol how can you compare goals and assists from two different leagues?
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I'm going to have to do a lot more reading to see the big differences between Lindholm and Monahan. I believe that will be the two they will have to choose between come draft time. Mohahan sounds like a Craig Conroy type to me.
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Still think Calgary should take Monahan over Lindholm.
Monahan has size (6'2" 186 at 18 years old), had more goals than Lindholm had points, add in his assists and he had 48 more points overall.
Monahan has also been touted to have an incredible Hockey IQ, which would really help a guy like Baertschi, who near the end of the season was really starting to find the right spots. Monahan is the type of Centre that would play to Baertschi's strengths. Throw Cammi on the RW, and get that leadership on the line, and I think they would look great.
Lindholm is playing in a league filled with men. He has the 4th highest PPG average of Swedish hockey players from the SEL in their draft eligible year. The other three guys? Just some scrubs named Daniel and Henrik Sedin and some guy named Peter Forsberg. Lindholm has the higher upside, he should be the Flames pick if he's there. And this is from a guy who likes Monahan a bit more.
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That's not the only way, but that is the way it's done.

Are you complaining about the way it's done, or them not showing it?


In your mind, how does this go down? Are all 30 teams in on it, and agree who will be handed the #1 pick? Why go through the charade of a lottery at all?

Do you really think that the owners would sign off on something like that that could be a multi-million dollar swing in the value of their own teams? Or, do you believe this is being orchestrated from behind the scenes completely fraudulently by Bettman and his minions? In nearly 20 years, don't you think someone would have blown the whistle on that?
Man why do you insist on putting words in my mouth? You really believe I think all 29 other teams collude to make themselves worse?

Of course I think it's rigged and I will always believe that. Crosby was handed over to Pittsburgh to save their franchise.

Why else would they not show the actual draw?
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Lindholm is playing in a league filled with men. He has the 4th highest PPG average of Swedish hockey players from the SEL in their draft eligible year. The other two guys? Just some scrubs named Daniel and Henrik Sedin and some guy named Peter Forsberg. Lindholm has the higher upside, he should be the Flames pick if he's there. And this is from a guy who likes Monahan a bit more.
Absolutely. Lindholm is the best Swedish forward prospect in quite some time. It seems like their top end Swedish prospects rarely bust though I haven't looked into it.

He looks so good that I doubt he's around by 6th.
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I'm with you, puckluck2... I don't trust the process for a second... though, it may not be rigged every year, as I don't know what the logic would be in doing so. Perhaps they don't show it just so its not an anomaly in the season's where they can't show it, such as the Crosby year.
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Absolutely. Lindholm is the best Swedish forward prospect in quite some time. It seems like their top end Swedish prospects rarely bust though I haven't looked into it.

He looks so good that I doubt he's around by 6th.
Ya, it seems really likely Lindholm is gone at 4 or 5... hopefully not.
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Still think Calgary should take Monahan over Lindholm.
Monahan has size (6'2" 186 at 18 years old), had more goals than Lindholm had points, add in his assists and he had 48 more points overall.
Monahan has also been touted to have an incredible Hockey IQ, which would really help a guy like Baertschi, who near the end of the season was really starting to find the right spots. Monahan is the type of Centre that would play to Baertschi's strengths. Throw Cammi on the RW, and get that leadership on the line, and I think they would look great.
You really can't compare the point totals of the two players. One is playing against teenagers and the other against men. Different ice surface. Etc.
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