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Old 04-28-2013, 09:50 AM   #21
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I'm not sure why Carolina needs to reach for a D or the Russian. They take the BPA over need and compile assets that can use you to improve the team through trades.

You can switch a center to wing as well. Did Tanguay being a center stop Colorado from taking him and adding him into a stacked team?
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:51 AM   #22
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Mackinnon
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:52 AM   #23
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why in the world did Colorado match the Flames offer for O`Rielly?

Where would O'Rielly go in this draft..?.... Just based on talent and potential and then when you factor in he takes up 10% for your cap space.
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:52 AM   #24
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It can't be understated how top heavy this draft is. The top 8 (give or take) would have all been first overall picks in the last couple of years. Really hope the Flames walk away with Lindholm or Monahan.

Hopefully the Russian gets snagged by someone before us to let someone else "fall". Maybe Nashville?
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:54 AM   #25
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why in the world did Colorado match the Flames offer for O`Rielly?
Because it was a risk, for both sides. The Flames flirted with a top four pick, if that happened advantage for the Av's. The Flames also flirted with moving towards it being a pick in the 9-10 range... where they probably wouldn't get a player as good as O'Reily.

Not what this thread is about anyways though.
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:57 AM   #26
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The Oilers will not be taking a D-man IMO.

They will make a trade for an NHL D-man and pick Monahan
Hope not, that would mean the flames passed on him. Monahan is the kind of center that wins playoff rounds. Flames need him.
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:00 AM   #27
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The Oilers will not be taking a D-man IMO.

They will make a trade for an NHL D-man and pick Monahan
I'd love to see the math in this happening
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:08 AM   #28
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Hope not, that would mean the flames passed on him. Monahan is the kind of center that wins playoff rounds. Flames need him.
My guess is that the Flames' order of preference is:

Barkov, Lindholm, Monahan

Unlikely (but certainly possible) that both Barkov an Lindholm are gone when we pick. If so, however, I think the Flames take Monahan
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:12 AM   #29
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I'd love to see the math in this happening
I happen to agree. They would package Gagner to get a top 4 defenseman if they could draft one of Barkov, Monahan, Lindholm (that order). They only take a defenseman if they win the lotto (or trade their 1st in a package for a top 2 defenseman).
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:15 AM   #30
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why in the world did Colorado match the Flames offer for O`Rielly?

Where would O'Rielly go in this draft..?.... Just based on talent and potential and then when you factor in he takes up 10% for your cap space.
To Flames:
Stastny (and his massive caphit)
Avs 1st rounder

To Avs:
Flames #1 pick
Blues #1 pick

flames use the pick to get Mackinnon

Takers?
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:16 AM   #31
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It can't be understated how top heavy this draft is. The top 8 (give or take) would have all been first overall picks in the last couple of years. Really hope the Flames walk away with Lindholm or Monahan.

Hopefully the Russian gets snagged by someone before us to let someone else "fall". Maybe Nashville?
Haha...maybe the top 3 but definitely not the top 8. Nuge, Huberdeau, Landeskog, Yakupov and Murray were all way bigger prospects than guys like Lindholm, Monahan or Nurse.
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:18 AM   #32
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Hopefully the Russian gets snagged by someone before us to let someone else "fall". Maybe Nashville?
They're likely still hungover from Radulov and Kostitsyn. I can't see that happening with the other quality players available at 5/6.

Carolina? Paired with Semin and the Staal brothers; Could jump in right away; don't need another center. They need defense but they also signed Semin to a 6 year deal so who knows what they're thinking.
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Stastny (and his massive caphit)
Avs 1st rounder

To Avs:
Flames #1 pick
Blues #1 pick

flames use the pick to get Mackinnon

Takers?

With the UFa market being as bad as it is, Stastny will have some value even with his large cap hit.

I could see the flames offering the Pitt pick for him straight across.
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:20 AM   #34
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Haha...maybe the top 3 but definitely not the top 8. Nuge, Huberdeau, Landeskog, Yakupov and Murray were all way bigger prospects than guys like Lindholm, Monahan or Nurse.
Landeskog and Huberdeau, ya. Never impressed with Murray.

And your colors are showing by including "Nuge" and the one dimensional Yakupov.
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Yep, best part about both my fave teams having crappy seasons is they both pick in the top 10, and between the two have five first round picks overall. I'm booking the day off
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:23 AM   #36
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Haha...maybe the top 3 but definitely not the top 8. Nuge, Huberdeau, Landeskog, Yakupov and Murray were all way bigger prospects than guys like Lindholm, Monahan or Nurse.
Disagree. I think the latter names are just as good as the former.
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:27 AM   #37
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I just can't see anything that would be enough value for one of the top 3 picks.

Remember, for the most part, not making risky moves avoids the "move that got me fired". Add that to the fact the GMs in the bottom 3 are likely in a bit of trouble already and I don't see them passing up a sure fire star for cap relief and riskier picks, or multiple riskier picks
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:29 AM   #38
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To Flames:
Stastny (and his massive caphit)
Avs 1st rounder

To Avs:
Flames #1 pick
Blues #1 pick

flames use the pick to get Mackinnon

Takers?
I doubt the Avs take those 2 picks for their pick, never mind throwing in Stastny as well.
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It can't be understated how top heavy this draft is. The top 8 (give or take) would have all been first overall picks in the last couple of years. Really hope the Flames walk away with Lindholm or Monahan.

Hopefully the Russian gets snagged by someone before us to let someone else "fall". Maybe Nashville?
No way. Top three would have been, but that's it from everything I've read.
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Yep, best part about both my fave teams having crappy seasons is they both pick in the top 10, and between the two have five first round picks overall. I'm booking the day off
I have a feeling both of our team will be in the bottom 5 picks next year so we'll have a lot more excitement coming both of our ways!

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