It's not a schtick. Trudeau is running on his daddy's name nothing more. There are quite a few people that will vote for him on name alone, but hopefully most Canadians are smarter.
Talk on CBC call in show today was that Harper is likely to retire in two years. What is that about?
Wishfull thinking by the CBC. There's no way that Harper can resist the chance to crush the Trudeau legacy in an election.
The CBC worries every year that Harper will wake up to the fact that the CBC is pretty much past its best before label and cuts the country club budget in half.
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You can bet that the Conservatives and NDP won't be nice and gentle like the Liberal (Don't say anything mean or tough or argue with Justin) Party.
Both Harper and Mulcair will relish the chance to destroy the son of Pierre Truedeau, and Precious Justin has given a lot of campaign ammo so far.
I don't think he's given nearly as much ammo as you think he has, and I also think you're seriously underestimating the likability factor in politics. The Conservatives have done more than enough to tarnish their brand outside of Alberta.
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I don't think he's given nearly as much ammo as you think he has, and I also think you're seriously underestimating the likability factor in politics. The Conservatives have done more than enough to tarnish their brand outside of Alberta.
He's given some pretty good ammo on multiple occasions especially in French Language interviews.
While Harper is not perfect, he's probably one of the best political operators that this country has seen on a similar level with Chretien.
The likeability only goes so far, and I don't know if its going to carry him through the pressure. We've already seen Trudeau throw a hissy fit when the Sun didn't treat him like a crown fit, and love them or hate them, Trudeau has to show an even keel and good leadership in the face of enormous pressure.
I think its going to be a very interesting two years of Canadian Politics and I can only say its about time.
We said the same thing about Iggy, he's more likeable and more charismatic then Harper and certainly had a very good resume, and it didn't matter.
The X-factor here is Mulcair who is not going to cooperate with Trudeau's desire to at least move back into the official opposition house, and the NDP this time is even better funded and positioned then under the last election.
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So the guy that slammed the door shut on the abortion state, actually improved the laws concerning gay marriage, and did none of the evil hidden agenda things once he had a massive majority that the Liberal Party promised that they would is a red neck?
Is that geographism that's coming out of your keyboard?
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Yeah, there's no good examples in politics of people running on their familys name and winning elections. None at all.
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So the guy that slammed the door shut on the abortion state, actually improved the laws concerning gay marriage, and did none of the evil hidden agenda things once he had a massive majority that the Liberal Party promised that they would is a red neck?
Is that geographism that's coming out of your keyboard?
Well, he did ramp up the crime bill, increase penalties for marijuana (at a time even the US is moving away from stricter laws on drugs), try to push through the internet bill to appease the corporations, and dismantle a lot of our ability to make smart environmental decisions while muzzling Canadian scientists.
While what you said is true technically, I don't think anyone was going to reopen the abortion thing, any leader would have done the same. In fact it's a small miracle the Conservatives did do what they did. So it's hard to praise them for that.
As far as the gay marriage thing, I'll give that one to him, though again, it wasn't anything any other leader wouldn't have done. It was rolling before him, and was going to continue rolling with or without him.
I have said in the past that Harper isn't quite the right wing boogyman a lot of people like to paint him as, so I agree with you there. In the beginning I liked a lot of what he did, even with trying to bring Quebec into the fold. But, especially recently, there some very important, very divisive, right wing platforms he has pushed through, so people do have a right to that opinion.
Though it would be nice if they voiced their concerns in a intelligent and more thought provoking manner than that one idiotic sentence above.
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It's not a schtick. Trudeau is running on his daddy's name nothing more. There are quite a few people that will vote for him on name alone, but hopefully most Canadians are smarter.
And Alberta wouldn't be what it is without our Oil and Gas. Justin Trudeau was born with advantages that dwarfs most of us, but he also converted those advantages to electoral success.
So the guy that slammed the door shut on the abortion state, actually improved the laws concerning gay marriage, and did none of the evil hidden agenda things once he had a massive majority that the Liberal Party promised that they would is a red neck?
Is that geographism that's coming out of your keyboard?
Harper did those things because it was politically necessary for him to do so due to general Canadian opinion, not because it was in line with his beliefs. That's why you get positions like "I won't reopen the debate because it's not a priority to Canadians" rather than "I believe women have the right to control their reproduction".
You can dress a redneck up and give him a speech writer, but you can't change what's on the inside.
He's given some pretty good ammo on multiple occasions especially in French Language interviews.
While Harper is not perfect, he's probably one of the best political operators that this country has seen on a similar level with Chretien.
The likeability only goes so far, and I don't know if its going to carry him through the pressure. We've already seen Trudeau throw a hissy fit when the Sun didn't treat him like a crown fit, and love them or hate them, Trudeau has to show an even keel and good leadership in the face of enormous pressure.
I think its going to be a very interesting two years of Canadian Politics and I can only say its about time.
We said the same thing about Iggy, he's more likeable and more charismatic then Harper and certainly had a very good resume, and it didn't matter.
The X-factor here is Mulcair who is not going to cooperate with Trudeau's desire to at least move back into the official opposition house, and the NDP this time is even better funded and positioned then under the last election.
Wow, desperate times call for desperate measures I guess. Now you're planting the seeds to paint Ignatieff as charismatic and likeable? Thou doth protest too much!
Wow, desperate times call for desperate measures I guess. Now you're planting the seeds to paint Ignatieff as charismatic and likeable? Thou doth protest too much!
You know, rather than rush to attack CC, you probably should have read what he wrote first. He said that Ignatief was more charismatic and likeable THAN HARPER. You see, when you choose to drop words key to context, you come off as disingenuous.
I, for one, am looking forward to the return of American-style attack ads with ominous music, leading questions, and terrible smash cuts.
"Justin Trudeau would like you to believe he doesn't eat babies!?!? Have you ever heard him say that he's against it? Vote Stephen Harper, for the children."
Lets be honest, in the last election, people didn't vote for the NDP and their insanity platform. The people voted for Layton because he hit the once in a lifetime note at the exact right time, plus and not to be cruel, he was sick and walking around on a cane and looking incredibly brave.
Mulcair is not Layton, half of the wacky NDP'ers that went from working as waitresses and bartenders and pro-seperatist students are not going to win their seats back.
But Mulcair is cagy enough and angry enough to go after Trudeau like the angry hand of god.
Plus he has the opportunity to question Trudeau on his attendance and on his double dipping in the same way that Layton knocked out Iggy on that.
The real fight and most of the seat exchanges will happen between NDP and Libs.
Well, Mulcair is not going to pry support from the right, and he's already lost a third of his base in Quebec to the Liberals, so it goes without saying that the NDP are going to be attacking Trudeau quite hard. But you are surely aware of how the polls are looking in Ontario, and there are going to be a lot of ridings in play between the Liberals and Conservatives.
You know, rather than rush to attack CC, you probably should have read what he wrote first. He said that Ignatief was more charismatic and likeable THAN HARPER. You see, when you choose to drop words key to context, you come off as disingenuous.
I read his post, thanks. I just find it laughable. I was on record somewhere here saying I wasn't particularly fond of Trudeau, but between the over the top bashing here and front pages like we see today on the Sun, my affection is growing.
