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Old 04-04-2013, 11:20 AM   #21
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Have we seen any goalies come over from Europe in their mid 20's and become an established starter in the NHL recently? I am not doubting just curious..
This season with the Ducks, Viktor Fasth, 29 years old.
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This is going to be an interesting training camp, lots of goalies in the system. Out of everyone you would hope there is one legit starter in the mix.

Have we seen any goalies come over from Europe in their mid 20's and become an established starter in the NHL recently? I am not doubting just curious.

Fasth? Just curious how this Berra and Ramo are going to stack up in the NA game, Ramo already had a chance and flunked out. Tampa seems to be a graveyard for goalies though..
Lundqvist came over at 23; Backstrom at 28; Hiller at 25; Rinne at 23
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:45 AM   #24
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I know we aren't even 2 years out from this draft, but I think it's a good sign that we will probably end up signing every one of the draft picks from the 2011 draft.

I know it's only 5 picks, but when was the last time the flames thought enough about their draft picks to sign everyone from a particular year?
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I know we aren't even 2 years out from this draft, but I think it's a good sign that we will probably end up signing every one of the draft picks from the 2011 draft.

I know it's only 5 picks, but when was the last time the flames thought enough about their draft picks to sign everyone from a particular year?
I wonder if any team has ever ended up signing each draft pick from a draft. Definitely a good sign

I'm not really all that sold on Granlund though
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:52 AM   #26
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Awesome news!
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:27 PM   #27
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Great News.. Sure hope he can continue to have success as he develops.
I like what he has done so far!!
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:41 PM   #28
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This season with the Ducks, Viktor Fasth, 29 years old.
I hope we add to that list, but the last "best player outside the NHL" we signed didn't fair to well.

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Lundqvist came over at 23; Backstrom at 28; Hiller at 25; Rinne at 23

That list makes me feel a bit better, thanks.
For the record, I actually want them to give Cervenka a second chance.
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:45 PM   #29
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This was a no brainer for the Flames. This kid has exceeded expectations so far and is trending up. Who know how far it goes, but you have to see it through.
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:51 PM   #30
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So under contract we have:

Kipper (technically)
Berra
Brossoit
Ortio

And pending free agents

MacDonald (UFA)
Irving (UFA)
Taylor

Any need to re-sign any of those last 3?
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:52 PM   #31
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So under contract we have:

Kipper (technically)
Berra
Brossoit
Ortio

And pending free agents

MacDonald (UFA)
Irving (UFA)
Taylor

Any need to re-sign any of those last 3?
I wouldnt be surprised if Irving and his agent are talking about non-Flames options at this point. A two-way deal with an NHL team or a contract in Europe.
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:04 PM   #32
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Sven Baertschi
Markus Granlund
Tyler Wotherspoon
Johnny Gaudreau
Laurent Brossoit

Yep, if there's anything Feaster is under appreciated for, it's the 2011 draft. There's a good chance that 2-3 of them could be impact players at the NHL level, and a decent chance that all 5 will see play time in the NHL.

Up until this year, that was the most important draft for the Flames in 10 years.
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While it's highly highly highly (I used three highly's for those posters that will reply to this and laugh) unlikely he would make the team this fall I hope the Flames have an open call for goalie. Whoever is best out of camp gets the first start of the season and whoever is 2nd best is the back up.

If that's Ramo, Berra, Broisoit, Ortio, MacDonald etc... whoever. While some would say it's better to get as much playing time in for Brossoit and the AHL is better then back-up I think being in the pros, practicing day in and day out is just as good, as well as getting some starts.
Yup. The Flames will be bad next year and the year after anyways, so bringing in a veteran backup is something I'd rather see them not do and just ride two young guys the whole way and let them learn. Goalies need to play to improve and I'd be happy to see an even split between two kids than the majority of games going to some veteran goalie. I'd even say the Flames should let MacDonald walk.
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:16 PM   #34
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So does this mean Taylor and Brust are gone? LB the starter in Abbotsford/Utica, Ortio backing him up?
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So under contract we have:

Kipper (technically)
Berra
Brossoit
Ortio

And pending free agents

MacDonald (UFA)
Irving (UFA)
Taylor

Any need to re-sign any of those last 3?
I'd re-sign Taylor. He's a good option for backup in the NHL or starter in the AHL. You forgot to mention that we will have Ramo.
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:39 PM   #36
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Sven Baertschi
Markus Granlund
Tyler Wotherspoon
Johnny Gaudreau
Laurent Brossoit

Yep, if there's anything Feaster is under appreciated for, it's the 2011 draft. There's a good chance that 2-3 of them could be impact players at the NHL level, and a decent chance that all 5 will see play time in the NHL.

Up until this year, that was the most important draft for the Flames in 10 years.
Man, someone is going to have to remind me of the circumstances, but did the Flames seriously only have 3 picks in the 2011 draft prior to gaining the 2 2nd rounders in the erixon trade? Were other picks traded at the draft to move up?
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Funny thing is.. out of all the goalies the Flames have, I believe Jon Gilles has the highest potential.
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:43 PM   #38
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So does this mean Taylor and Brust are gone? LB the starter in Abbotsford/Utica, Ortio backing him up?
That seems like the wisest use of contract space. Brust and Taylor don't need to be here ahead of LB and Ortio.
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:47 PM   #39
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Man, someone is going to have to remind me of the circumstances, but did the Flames seriously only have 3 picks in the 2011 draft prior to gaining the 2 2nd rounders in the erixon trade? Were other picks traded at the draft to move up?
They traded their 5th rounder along with Erixon for Horak and 2 2nds


So going in they had: 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th


I think
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So does this mean Taylor and Brust are gone? LB the starter in Abbotsford/Utica, Ortio backing him up?

Not so sure that LB starts in Abby, there is a big gap between the shooters in the CHL and the shooters in the AHL. I think he'll serve as backup in his first year. Ortio might start in the ECHL

I think one of Taylor or Brust will be back as the starter in Abby on an AHL deal like the start of this season
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