Dreger: Kiprusoff to not move, retire at end of the season

[The Swedish Flame]

Originally Posted by transplant99

In fact it was insinuated by Warrener that Kiprusoff likely turned down an extension from Toronto that would of been "a lot" of money, because he isnt sure he would live up to the level of pay and was concerned he wouldnt earn whatever the compensation was.

Pure class.

[moon]

Originally Posted by bigtmac19

Some of the things being said about Kipper in this thread are disgusting. Mob mentality I guess. No wonder I barely read anything in FOI anymore.

Disgusting?? LOL

The made up outrage by many about what is being is said continues.

[Grimbl420]

Originally Posted by drPepper1

Seems like a lot of people forgot what kipper has done for this team over the years

No one's forgotten. He will go down as one of the best players to put on the Flaming C. It Doesn't mean I'm not upset that he won't honour his contract if traded.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Rhett Warrener just called into the guys on 960 and told them this after having a conversation with Kiprusoff about 2 hours ago as they were leaving the dome after RW's morning show appearance...

Basically Kiprusoff is not likely going anywhere not because he doesnt necessarily want to, but because he isnt sure he has "it" anymore (and yes family/home issues as well at the moment). In fact it was insinuated by Warrener that Kiprusoff likely turned down an extension from Toronto that would of been "a lot" of money, because he isnt sure he would live up to the level of pay and was concerned he wouldnt earn whatever the compensation was. This is why the retirement thing is so front and center...niot because he doesnt want to play, but because he isnt sure he is able to play at the level he expects of himself moving forward.

Sure sounds like a selfish dick now doesnt he?

I don´t think anyone who has followed Kiprusoff and seen what type of person he is would actually think that he is a dick. People who call him selfish here either don´t have a clue or just want to stir the pot.

[sa226]

I have no issue with Kipper making this decision. I don't really care about the lost potential return in a trade.

Much the same as Iggy, I wanted to see Kipper go to a playoff team and show the rest of the league what we already know. He is one of the best goalies and players of the past decade.

Its a damn shame that his career will likely end with baseless criticism and slagging from fans and media. The funny thing is that much like his play on the ice, he doesn't care what other people think and not much bothers him.

If what Rhett is saying is true than he deserves some credit for that.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

The only disgusting thing about this situation is some fans' reactions.

Why don't you and the others who believe players under contract should be able to make their own rules join us in the real world? Think about what you're saying.

Lets say this summer, or next summer, Sven announces that he wants to play hockey elsewhere (for family reasons) and he won't report to the Flames.

Can I expect you to post:

Good going Sven. You do what is right for your family. The only idiots that will be mad are the idiots that care more about hockey than your family life.

Go out on your own terms. You deserve that much.

Allowing contracted players to make up their own rules is a recipe for disaster.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

Randy Sportak‏@SUNRandySportak1m

#Flames say Miikka Kiprusoff will speak after the game.

That sounds ominous

[Ozy_Flame]

Great non-selfish reason to do so, but almost being too nice to Leafs fans if that was the case

[bigtmac19]

Originally Posted by moon

Disgusting?? LOL

The made up outrage by many about what is being is said continues.

"Made up outrage" Okay, whatever buddy, who are you to tell me that.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

Why don't you and the others who believe players under contract should be able to make their own rules join us in the real world? Think about what you're saying.

Lets say this summer, or next summer, Sven announces that he wants to play hockey elsewhere (for family reasons) and he won't report to the Flames.

Can I expect you to post:



Allowing contracted players to make up their own rules is a recipe for disaster.

Except that they arent "making up their own rules"....those rules exist right now and have firever. If a player doesnt want to report somewhere and retire, they can. Nothing stopping them from that as long as they are OK with not getting paid.

[moon]

Originally Posted by bigtmac19

"Made up outrage" Okay, whatever buddy, who are you to tell me that.

A poster on a message board.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by bigtmac19

"Made up outrage" Okay, whatever buddy, who are you to tell me that.

Dude, just don't bother with moon. At times it's like talking to a wall.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Dishonourable?! If you decide that you want to retire a year before the expiration of your contract it is now DISHONOURABLE?!

What is dishonourable is announcing 3/4 of the way through a season that you're effectively imposing a NTC that you don't have.

[JayFlowmeester]

I wish I was going to the game tonight so I could boo him

[Bmuzyka]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Except that they arent "making up their own rules"....those rules exist right now and have firever. If a player doesnt want to report somewhere and retire, they can. Nothing stopping them from that as long as they are OK with not getting paid.

True, but this rumour getting out sabatoged his trade potential. What if any other player in the NHL without a NTC were to say they would rather retire than be traded to the Calgary Flames?

[Teroy]

Originally Posted by JayFlowmeester

I wish I was going to the game tonight so I could boo him

Another idiot!

[89revival]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Except that they arent "making up their own rules"....those rules exist right now and have firever. If a player doesnt want to report somewhere and retire, they can. Nothing stopping them from that as long as they are OK with not getting paid.

Not making up his own rules but certainly not helping the team in any way that gave him a shot in the league to be what he ended up being. Is there no merit in being thankful to the organization that traded for him, paid him handsomly to the tune of 35+ million dollars over the course of his time in Calgary....

I love Kipper, but i love the team a lot more....maybe it`s considered inscensitive or something by some but i would like a return on the guy. But if what Warrener has apparently said is true i suppose it changes the picture a lot. Probably would`ve been easier for Miika to just come out with it himself prior to all the hooplah that`s now going on.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by nik-

That sounds ominous

If he wanted to help the organization, he would retire immediately and the organization should give him a hearty handshake and thank him for his service . . . . . then play everyone else who might have a chance next year.

It's not just about whether he "has it" anymore. It looks like he doesn't believe he has it anymore and simply doesn't want to play anymore.

Send him home. That's where he wants to be.

Great player in his day.

Cowperson

[Wronskian]

Originally Posted by Teroy

Another idiot!

Everyone can handle this the way they want, just depends what you value more; players or team.

[Flame On]

Maybe those that are complaining about Kipper can explain why are the Flames trying to enforce a NRC (No Retirement Clause)!!
IF the Flames wanted a No Retirement Clause, they should have built that into the contract.