04-01-2013, 10:50 PM
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#901
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London
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Originally Posted by TKB
What good is cap space if you are rebuilding though? its not like any good UFA will come play for a terrible rebuilding team.
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It's because a number of teams will have to cut salary and therefore players could be had for less than they can at a trade deadline. The Flames may have over pay, but a couple on a short term can be useful.
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04-01-2013, 10:51 PM
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#902
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Orton14
At first I thought was horrible trade but this guy been absolute junk except for half a season this year
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he only looks good now compared to that...he is still not at the 6.68M level I expected, not even close. His offensive numbers are better because the Flames have played loose run and gun.
18 goals in 300 games, what a great offensive dman
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04-01-2013, 10:51 PM
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#903
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by JazzyFlame
I miss sutter.
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Which one - Brian, Darryl, Brent, his 10 other bros on the farm, and their kids? 
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04-01-2013, 10:52 PM
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#904
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by kyuss275
It's not a bad post but just because he might have a high IQ does not automatically make him a good negotiator. A high IQ also does not mean he knows how to judge hockey talent.
I will aslo add that if having a high IQ is how you judge the GM, why was his innitial take on the team so wrong? He even admitted today that he judged the team wrong.
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So much assumption and false information in that post it's almost borderline silly. You hit the nail on the head Kyuss, even IF (again assumptions) someone does have a high IQ does not mean they will do well at everything they try.
On another note, while Feaster admitting he was wrong is commendable, it is unacceptable in the position he is in.
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04-01-2013, 10:54 PM
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#905
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by CSharp
Which one - Brian, Darryl, Brent, his 10 other bros on the farm, and their kids? |
I remember Brian Sutter getting about as much as possible out of our craptastic team all those years ago. I wonder if he'd like a second crack at doing it all over again?
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04-01-2013, 10:55 PM
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#906
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by CSharp
Which one - Brian, Darryl, Brent, his 10 other bros on the farm, and their kids? |
You have to be kidding? Name one draft pick that has worked out that Darryl made in his time here? The only one that has been productive for the flames in all his tenure as GM was Backlund. He was also responsible for trading away all our picks.
Feaster is bad, but don't wish for Darryl to come back.
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04-01-2013, 10:57 PM
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#907
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by etdpratt
You have to be kidding? Name one draft pick that has worked out that Darryl made in his time here? The only one that has been productive for the flames in all his tenure as GM was Backlund. He was also responsible for trading away all our picks.
Feaster is bad, but don't wish for Darryl to come back.
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Sutter did draft Brodie.
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04-01-2013, 10:58 PM
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#908
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by etdpratt
You have to be kidding? Name one draft pick that has worked out that Darryl made in his time here? The only one that has been productive for the flames in all his tenure as GM was Backlund. He was also responsible for trading away all our picks.
Feaster is bad, but don't wish for Darryl to come back.
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TJ Brodie
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04-01-2013, 10:59 PM
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#909
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Originally Posted by Saqe
Yeah but what kind of intelligence? Logical problem solving skills? Sure. Doen´t measure social intelligence at all, who know how badly Feaster gets played by other GM´s because he has a low read on people (as an example, not advocating this either). Point being that the type of intelligence that people generally equate to schools don´t necessarily make people "smart".
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A smart person knows his limitations and how to use the people he has surrounded himself with.
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04-01-2013, 11:00 PM
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#910
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Franchise Player
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Jay Feaster has drafted far better than Daryl...I wont even have a debate on that one
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04-01-2013, 11:00 PM
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#911
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Mike Vernon
How do we trade a defensemen that plays 30 min a game for no NHL players in return?
We might as well play 6 forwards every game from now on. Will have the same result and then we can draft No.1 and be successful like the Oilers.
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Because Bouwmester sucks?
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04-01-2013, 11:00 PM
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#912
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YYC
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04-01-2013, 11:01 PM
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#913
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by etdpratt
You have to be kidding? Name one draft pick that has worked out that Darryl made in his time here? The only one that has been productive for the flames in all his tenure as GM was Backlund. He was also responsible for trading away all our picks.
Feaster is bad, but don't wish for Darryl to come back.
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Stamkos aside, Darryl has drafted roughly equal to Feaster in their GM careers. Neither are good, but not as bad as people here make them out to be. Plus there are other ways to bring in good young players besides the draft
Darryl's eye for talent >>>>> Feaster's
Darryl saw the talent in guys like Kipper, Borque, Glencross, Huselius etc when no other GM did. Feaster doesn't have that ability and he should not build this team
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04-01-2013, 11:01 PM
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#914
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by kukkudo
TJ Brodie
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ok, I stand corrected with Brodie, but given 5 or 6 years as GM, two decent players don't cut it.
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04-01-2013, 11:02 PM
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#915
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NorthVan
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The concept of a 'good hockey trade', is basically extinct. No longer is it who gets the best player wins the trade.
Cap space and draft picks are extreamly valuable assets. Comparable in some cases to good prospects.
Unfortunately for us, we will not know if we as totally screwed, or if Feaster and Co are geniuses for a few years to come.
Everything inbetween is just speculation.
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04-01-2013, 11:02 PM
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#916
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Originally Posted by jg13
Sutter did draft Brodie.
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.......and set the Flames franchise back with that horrible trade of Phaneuf and all those draft picks he traded away.
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04-01-2013, 11:02 PM
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#917
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Dion
.......and set the Flames franchise back with that horrible trade of Phaneuf and all those draft picks he traded away.
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not disagreeing with that one bit.
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04-01-2013, 11:03 PM
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#918
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: 555 Saddledome Rise SE
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Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire
Feaster made a very interesting point in his interview on 960.
He basically said that this offseason there will be a lot of teams looking to get under the cap next season and with all the cap space the Flames will have, it puts them in a good buying position and not only that, but a position of power because every other team will be in desperation mode to get under the cap.
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While this is true to some extent, compliance buyouts sour the koolaid Feaster's trying to sell with this one.
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04-01-2013, 11:04 PM
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#919
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Franchise Player
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Feaster has won 1 trade for sure, McGratton for Piskula!!
Wow, who is this power forward?!??!
Haha...it actually was a good trade.... 
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04-01-2013, 11:04 PM
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#920
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Dion
.......and set the Flames franchise back with that horrible trade of Phaneuf and all those draft picks he traded away.
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He also drafted Phaneuf... not that it makes a difference...
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